Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by NWbyNW, Sep 23, 2019.
Oooh, a RWD boxy next gen Cherokee would be enough to get me to trade my KL in...
You're not the only one !
I'm tired of all the jellybean lookalike vehicles out there.
My wish; FCA would take the pacifica platform and spin off vehicles. Based on the ability for it to be a hybrid and a EV. Similar to the Journey, they could make the pacifica a 4dr. with a new body. As for Voyager, stop making a me too lower trim model. Put new front face on it and keep it lower trim style for affordability. Maybe toss in some old mayflower pictures on emblems from Plymouth. Maybe even make it a PT ish van like with fiat 500 headlights. As for Dodge Caravan, it should have a separate body than the pacifica. Maybe get with the aftermarket to see what they like to offer in design that is customizable. Easy change out front grill for custom grills. Like spider web, or teeth, or .... plus rubber ground effects option. I hate drivers that park by hitting tire to curb, thus destroying ground effects. People like that don't deserve that option. I still think the Pacifica should have a spin off FWD car like the LHS & concord.
I had a 2007 Commander and a 2011 Liberty. Both were boxy and I loved it.
IMO the Caravan can potentially have the quickest development from the Pacifica. Whether you put a 2.0T in it or tune the 3.6 Hyrbid so it produces more power off the line then replace the Pacifica taillights with racetracs similar to the Durango and replace the bumper with a Dodgeque bumper and grills. Don't change the sheet metal or anything else in the van. From day 1 those cars looked like carbon copies of each other. You don't need to go very far to make them distinguishable. My understanding is the problems come from crash rating it and putting a suspension that can support the powertrain. The thing is: keep it simple. Its a minivan. The Dodge version just needs to be a faster version of the minivans. I doesn't need to blow the doors off a Hellcat. Think about the Turbo mini's of the 80's. Something like that.
I'd got a step further, if it was up to me: Dodge as the short wheelbase, Chrysler as the long wheelbase. I realize there's not much call for short wheelbase, but it's the easiest way to get better acceleration.
A 3.6 Caravan has plenty of acceleration, at least at legal speeds.
There's no need for significant changes to the Voyager to make it a Caravan. Exchange the grille with something with a crosshair and swap out the headlights with something that has the Charger signature D shaped running lights. If you do this right you can keep the same bumper. Don't try to make it a sports van. It's the cheap van. Get rid of the Voyager and sell the new Dodge Grand Caravan and Chrysler Pacifica.
Sounds like badge engineering to me.
They already had a Dodge branded Pacifica ready to go in the design room years ago.
They need a Dodge branded Pacifica that is cheap and affordable.
How about a Chrysler branded Voyager that is cheap and affordable?
Just got a new 2020 Durango SXT In - Violet . I ordered it and it took a mere 3 weeks from signing until it showed up at the dealer . Even the lower end Durango's are really nice . Can't imagine why you would need a V8 other than the fun of driving it , the Pentastar has more than enough guts to push that vehicle and its even more fun in Sport mode . I have zero complaints other than a couple of scratches on the front bumper that will be taken care of . The paint job is flawless , love the configurable dash and all the parameters you can look at from tranny temps to oil temps, oil pressure etc . The 850RE ZF designed 8 speed auto has almost imperceptable shifting . It's really quiet and has zero rattles so far . Initial build quality is fantastic and here's hoping for long term quality . Fingers crossed .
And you can have 2nd row stow and go . That is stupid not having it as an option . I have it on my 14 GC AVP model that i paid $22000 for .
It will be. You'll just have to buy it used from Hertz or Enterprise. I suspect they're going to change this 2nd row non-S&G nonsense once they realize the Voyager won't sell w/out S&G.
Mine would be disappearing too.
They'll probably change it when the pacifica gets a refresh so the Voyager can use the old body and differentiate the two better
From what I've read the Voyager will be branded as a Dodge in Canada. Just head north to buy one.
Could order the grille and badges and just swap it into the US model.