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New Renegade had no AC Fluid

Discussion in 'Compacts: Renegade, Patriot, Compass, Caliber' started by Lone Renegade, Feb 22, 2019.

  1. Lone Renegade

    Lone Renegade Active Member

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    I bought my Renegade Trailhawk in the fall so I didn't need the AC but I noticed it didn't really feel any different when on. I figured I'd just have the dealer look at it when it was due for its first oil change. As the miles got higher, I noticed that after longer drives I heard a squeaking like a belt or pulley coming from the engine, it was very noticeable after a long 200 mile drive so mentioned it and the AC issue when I turned it in. They kept the car for a day and a half and their best guess was that the issues were related because the AC had no refrigerant at all. I still have to do a long drive to confirm everything is good but the AC definitely works now!
     
  2. AllanC

    AllanC Well-Known Member

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    Either charging the system on the assembly line was skipped or the system has a leak in a fitting or component. I believe the Jeep Renegade for North American consumers is built in Italy. That kind of speaks volumes about the poor quality control for Italian built vehicles.
     
  3. Lone Renegade

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    For some reason I can't get my picture of the service right up to upload but the system was checked for leaks. It simply wasn't charged. I was curious since the engine is built in the US but the car is fully assembled in Italy, who's responsibility it came down to lol.
     
  4. AllanC

    AllanC Well-Known Member

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    Vehicles move along an assembly line and at various stations components are added or actions performed. Adding fluids such as coolant, brake fluid, air conditioning refrigerant would tend to be performed near the end of the assembly process. What happens if a particular vehicle stops at the station for refrigeration system evacuation and then charging but it is shift change / shift end. That particular worker leaves and it should be the responsiblity for the next shift worker to perform the fluid filling??? But the next shift may be minutes, hours, or even days later if it is a weekend. Are there processes in place to prevent vehicles from not receiving a necessary action during a stoppage of the assembly line? Process quality control is the key factor here. Maybe if someone who has worked on a vehicle assembly line could enlighten us on what happens during shift change / end on an assembly line.
     
  5. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    A mistake was made, but there are multiple times along the way this should've been caught. The final place was the dealer, who didn't do a very good job making sure the vehicle was prepped for sale to a customer.
     
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  6. Lone Renegade

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    Turns out the squeaking didn't go away so I'll have to turn it in again. It's pulley or belt related in some way. It happens after 30 miles of driving.
     
  7. NeilG

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    Late to the thread but I thought I’d chime in... I just bought a new 2018 renegade the other day and the AC is not very cold at all.
     
  8. OfficialMopar

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    Hi NeilG,

    I’m sorry to hear this, I certainly understand why it would be concerning. To clarify, have you brought this to the attention of your selling dealership? If not, I recommend connecting with them as they are in the best position to diagnose your concern and determine the appropriate course of action. Our team is available via private message if you are in need of any assistance with that process.

    Mark
    Mopar Social Care Specialist
     
  9. AllanC

    AllanC Well-Known Member

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    Up to the mid-1980s auto manufacturers mentality was "so-so" quality in the build process. Mistakes, oversights, assembly goofs were expected to be caught by the dealership service department. That is why if you bought a vehicle from Dealer A other like franchised dealers did NOT or would NOT do warranty work. Dealers knew they had to pack extra fees into the final sales price to cover warranty boo-boos by the manufacturer.

    Then the reign of the Japanese vehicles with better quality came into the picture. Even Lee Iacocca got on the band wagon and said that the manufacturers had to improve quality and take that load away from the dealers So dealers now do very little checking of new vehicles before delivery. But you would think the sales personnel would and could do some easy checks such as for cold A C before delivery.

    So this is another piece of evidence that Italian made vehicles have poor quality control. Look at the Italian sourced 3.0 liter V6 diesel produced by Fiat partner VM Motori that is used in the Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee. Lots of quality problems in that engine.
     
  10. NeilG

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    I went back to the dealer and I told the service advisor that to me it seemed that it was low on refrigerant. She said yeah, but it’s a sealed system. I chuckled to myself a bit.

    Turns out the high pressure line was leaking and they had to get a new one from another dealer, but it was fixed the same day. Ice cold under all conditions now!

    I’m ok with a few bugs and hiccups as long as it happens under warranty and the dealer gets it sorted.
     
  11. Matthew

    Matthew Is pushing for progress!

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    That is something that dealership should have caught. I know that even though my jeep came from another dealership in my dealers network, they wanted all day (which worked for me as I worked to 7pm that day anyway) to have the care gone over for their pre delivery check. So it sound like you dealership did a bad job doing a pre delivery check, or that they have a very lax one.
     
  12. Lone Renegade

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    I haven't been on here since my AC was fixed but I'll say I have over 15k miles on it already and have had no issues since.
     
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    Even if it's shift end, you have to finish the vehicle while it is in station, THEN you can leave. So you just have to work for free for a few seconds. :)
     

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