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Next gen Challenger

Discussion in 'New Challenger, 300, Magnum, Charger' started by Ray29, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Ray29

    Ray29 New Member

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    It's been a while since I've been on.
    The last I had read is the next "gen" (new chassis) challenger was expected as a 2021MY.
    I'm guessing this is no longer the case since I haven't seen anything on it.
    I did several searches and poked around but didn't find much that wasn't pretty old. (a year or so)

    Can anyone point me to the latest information/speculation on what's coming?

    Thanks!
     
  2. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    It will be based on fiat giorgio platform with the new straight six as the base engine and the hemis for the upper trims.
     
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    sickboy Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me if I missed something, but I was under the impression that giorgio was deemed too expensive for the charger/challenger?
     
  4. Ryan

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    I actually would expect the 2.0 turbo to be the base engine with the inline-6 taking the place of the R/T's 5.7L Hemi. As far as the Scat Pack's 392... from what we've heard, there will be a high-output inline-6 engine that can replace that too if they want to go that route.

    They're going to be on "Giorgio Global" which is essentially Giorgio reconfigured to fit the existing build points of the Charger and Challenger, in the process becoming more of a unique architecture than the name Giorgio would suggest.
     
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  5. Ray29

    Ray29 New Member

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    Thanks for the replies.
    Replacing the 5.7 with an inline 6 worries me but as long as they have a v8 then I'm good.
    So no mention of timing.
    I'm assuming it's not 2021 model year so 22 or are we out to 23 now?
     
  6. Ryan

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    I think we're at a 2022 calendar year launch for the 2023 model year now.
     
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    Ryan, Any mild updates for the 2021s like the Durango is getting?
     
  8. Ryan

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    I doubt it. Maybe new special editions and colors plus the Charger Redeye.
     
  9. AHBGuru

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    Somewhere on Allpar is the latest info (it might be a couple of years ago now) that Chrysler decided against using the Giorgio platform in favor of re-engineering the LD architecture, as the Fiat design is not wide enough to facilitate the V8 engines.

    Considering how stout the LD is, all is needs is a little love - for instance, how about a beefy, yet modern, torsion bar front suspension?
     
  10. LouJC

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    PLEASE....PLEASE do not change it much, improve quality and interior especially, keep vintage look and V8 100% or I will lose interest. No desire to have a Euro-inspired muscle car, either 100% American style or nothing.
    and hold all the comments about FCA not being an American company and the Challenger/Charger being based on Merc design suspension, you all KNOW what I mean....
     
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  11. Ryan

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    That’s not the latest info anymore. They’re using Giorgio Global now, which will also be used for the Grand Cherokee.
     
  12. Tony K

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    I think that even went away with the 8-spd redesign (LA/LD).
     
  13. AHBGuru

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    Could you repost that information? I haven't seen that anywhere.
     
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    Correct, the 2011+ LD Charger/300 and 2015+ LA Challenger redesigns eliminated nearly all of the remaining Mercedes design synergies in the cars.
     
  15. Tony K

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    It's been mentioned in here or in an article before.
     
  16. AHBGuru

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    "Mentioned" is hardly credible, nor is there an article here or anywhere else that confirms the claim, which means it's speculation.

    The last confirmed information from FCA-US was they were abandoning the Giorgio architecture in favor of re-engineering the LD/LA. Considering the development costs, and the requirements for the underpinnings (SRT/Police, and Retail), it would be very hard to believe they would toss all of the existing success out in favor of something completely new.
     
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    Do y'all perhaps think the merger with PSA scuttles everything known about the next gen Challenger ?
     
  18. Jerry Simcik

    Jerry Simcik Well-Known Member

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    That would be terribly costly. I would say "no."
     
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