Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Apr 22, 2016.
BUTTTTT the reason for the name change allows for a cross over so technically .......
Cherokee will stay. Chrysler brand will get their own vehicle in the segment that will be a lot different than Cherokee, in who it appeals to. Yes, China will get a stretched version, but that has to do more with production capacity and limited to import taxes on other Jeep vehicles based on being built outside of China as well as taxes on engine sizes.
There is a lot of barriers you have to go through, to be able to sell a vehicle in the Chinese market. A long wheelbase Cherokee makes more sense, as well as it will be cheaper in the long run to be able to produce there than it would to import another vehicle into the segment.
The North American market will NOT get a long wheelbase Cherokee.
I wonder why they aren't letting Chrysler have the stretched platform at this time? They could be developing whatever is replacing or supplementing the current Journey since it won't be using the CUSW. It would also allow Chrysler the opportunity to have another people mover under it's belt to generate some profits.
Back to topic, if the last renderings of the Compass/Patriot replacement are accurate, Jeep has another hot seller on the way!!
Ooooooooohhhhhh...I see. Nod nod, wink wink. (I don't really see...I'm just saying that so people won't think I have no idea what I'm talking about...which I don't...wait...am I thinking out loud again??? DOH!! )
Tis truly a strange and convoluted process. I just want to fast forward time to see what ends up fitting where, and what they all look like. A man can dream, after all.
I always thought that Wagoneer will be a more upscale version of next gen Grand Cherokee. A vehicle which is in both interior and exterior very or significantly different than Grand Cherokee but with exact the same platform. Off-course a Grand Wagoneer as a long whellbase version of it.
In that sense they could have two North American plants for those models.
Renaming the Compass as Wagoneer and having the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee between it and the Grand Wagoneer doesn't make sense to me. Renaming the Compass as Cherokee and replacing the current Cherokee with a GUS Wagoneer makes slightly more sense, but I don't think the current Cherokee is going away that quick. But it does sound like Belvidere will be empty come the beginning of 2017...
Cherokee (maybe with the supposed upcoming face lift to make it look more like the GC?)
Grand wagoneer? (Suburban sized-ish)
I think the style is too different than the grand wagoneer if what they described from the dealer show is still accurate. (Described as flex-like)
My brain wants to switch Cherokee and wagoneer though; by size:
I agree with your logic SuzQ. It would be a fantastic switcheroo to pull off though, but I can't see the stars lining up for it to happen.
My thoughts are they will split the lineup into three different type of builds.
Renegade FWD/AWD Unibody
Compass FWD/AWD Unibody
Cherokee FWD/AWD Unibody
Grand Cherokee RWD/AWD Unibody
Wagoneer RWD/4WD BOF, short Ram platform or GUS
Grand Wagoneer RWD/4WD BOF, Ram platform
Wrangler RWD/4WD BOF
Wrangler unlimited RWD/4WD BOF
Wrangler Pickup RWD/4WD BOF, possible platform shared with midsize Ram.
The Chrysler brand will get a CUSW based crossover as well as one based on the new minivan platform (which is a modified and stretched version of the CUSW platform).
Anyone remember what I said based on hints dropped to me?
“Cherokee - stopgap. RWD closed roof coming.”
That said, the success of the Cherokee leads me to believe that red-jk is right. The Wagoneer will be G-US, and the Wagoneer I suspect will be Ram platform which will also allow the Ramcharger SUV.
“If FCA US is going to be typecast as a truck company, why not live up to it?”
Renegade/(future) Compass I see as being like Patriot/(current) Compass.
Grand Cherokee is the open question, will that go G-US or will it stay on WK? Regardless of the assigned platform name... I've heard it both ways.
I doubt Ram would use the Wrangler pickup platform. Why would it?
Agreed. Stretched Cherokee and really stretched Cherokee
As far as I know, Grand Wagoneer will be based on the unibody platform shared with the next Grand Cherokee and Durango.
Trust me... if I had my dream come true... there would be a Ram 1500 and a Jeep 1500 pickup (like the old FSJ pickups)... GM does it with GMC and Chevrolet...
But our dreams always don't come true
I still think that blue Photoshop of mine right there looks like a Ford, even if it is based on a new-body RAM with pieces of j10 added.
I think it looks like a J-20 with a modern grille!!!
I think that died with Ram International... that would have been a way to get that vehicle in other markets that Sell Jeeps.
Hmh, I'm interested to see if they will apply some weight savings compared to Cherokee. IMO, this last vehicles from FCA on both sides are better in that regard compared to competitors than for example Dart, 200 or Cherokee.
Also will they sell it in Europe as for example Lancia?