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Poor OEM tires

Discussion in 'Grand Cherokee, Durango, etc' started by valiant67, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. valiant67

    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather
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    I was really hoping the OEM Bridgestone tires on the Durango would make it through the winter, especially since they only have 20k miles on them. But these Bridgestone Ecopia H/L 422 Plus tires are absolute crap in bad weather. I don't what kind of person selects an eco-focused tire as the standard tire for an AWD SUV? Shame on you Dodge and Bridgestone.

    Then to make matters worse, the selection in 265-50-20 tires is very poor. Thanks again Dodge! I guess I'll have to buy some 18" wheels and winter tires and then another set of decent 20" tires in the spring.

    I really wish the person selecting OEM tires did a better job.
     
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  2. Doug D

    Doug D Virginia Gentleman

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    That sucks!

    The OEM Kumho's on our Journeys were not that great. They were okay in dry/wet weather, but they wore out too fast for my liking. They needed replacement by 40K miles. And thank goodness it didn't have the 20" wheels - the tires for those were very hard to find. The best OEM tires I had to date were Michelins on my '06 Ram 1500. Excellent dry/wet/snow weather grip and they lasted 111,000 miles before I replaced them. Sadly, I just couldn't afford them - went with Firestone Destination LE's, and the Primewell's (a low priced tire available at Firestone). The first set of Primewell's (P265/70/17's) were good for a low priced tire. Good grip and they lasted about 53K miles (rated for 50K). I just put another set of Primewell's (LT265/70/17's) - so far so good.
     
  3. valiant67

    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather
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    And I'm down to just a couple of 20" tires if I want tires made in US or Canada. That's really sad. Adding Mexico adds a couple more.
     
  4. JA Cumbo

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    I think the prerequisites for choosing OEM tires are they have to be round, black and cheap. If they could get away with them not being round and black, they not consider that either.
     
  5. rapidtrans

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    I finally gave up on the Firestones that came on my Charger. This is my 3rd LX with these 20” tires. Real performance being more important than country of origin I went with Toyo Proxes 4. Huge improvement in snow, ice and slush and I figure they can’t be any noisier in summer. Should have swapped to these soon as I bought the car.
     
  6. valiant67

    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather
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    I have done that three times. I never put more than 8k miles on a set of those crap Firestone’s.
     
  7. rapidtrans

    rapidtrans Well-Known Member

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    Their poor performance in rain is unbelievable.You kinda know you gotta be careful in snow but dead of summer and a little rain, the [I should have my mouth washed out with soap for using such terms] end is all over the place.
     
  8. MPE426HEMI

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    It seems to always be the way at FCA. You spend money on a new vehicle and they can't even give you a decent set of boots. Every vehicle I've had new had some POS tires on it. The worst being the Yokohama Avids on my '11 DGC. Never lasted two years and wouldn't even think about using them in the Winter, so really only a full year worth of running on them. The Firestones on my '16 Patriot seem to be wearing fine, but they are the noisiest tire I've ever owned. Can't wait to get rid of those. Sucks!
     
  9. rapidtrans

    rapidtrans Well-Known Member

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    Mopar used to use Goodyears almost exclusively. (They refused Firestones supposedly due to the Ford family association)
    Never had problems with the factory tires. Buy the same tire as a replacement later and would have issues balancing the things. I would think which ever tire might give a mpg improvement gets the nod today. Fuggetabout performance.
     
  10. MPE426HEMI

    MPE426HEMI Well-Known Member

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    Whatever they can get a bulk deal on, I believe, gets the nod.
     
  11. Lee N. Burns

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    This was circulated many years ago.
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    Chrysler LLC announces return to "completely round" wheels.

    Robert Nardelli, CEO of Chrysler LLC, announced that Chrysler will begin phasing out its twelve-sided wheels and tires introduced by parent company Daimler in 2003 as part of a cost-savings program.

    "The DoubleHex® smartwheel package has actually increased our costs, while putting us at a competitive disadvantage to other automakers. Daimler projected a cost-savings by eliminating the precise tolerances required for round rims and tires, and expected that customers would eventually wear the tire's contact surface into a complete circle."

    Chrysler buyers are expected to notice an immediate improvement in vehicle handling and ride quality, while the company will benefit by no longer paying a royalty to Daimler for each DoubleHex® smartwheel produced in Chrysler factories.

    Said Nardelli, "We'll never be able to recoup the $370 million dollars in tooling we were forced to purchase from [Daimler-owned] Schisskamp Gbh, but we expect to sell some of it on the Chinese market, where 8-sided tires have been the standard for quite some time."

    Look for the traditional round tires to re-appear first on 2009 editions of the retro-themed Dodge Challenger.
     
  12. MPE426HEMI

    MPE426HEMI Well-Known Member

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    Bahaahaa! Mine are only flat on the bottom!
     
  13. Lee N. Burns

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    You can blame premature tire wear on soft rubber compounds installed as OEM to impress automotive writers.
     
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  14. Shane Estabrooks

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    Have to agree with you all on OEM tires, so my last vehicle I budgeted new tires and rims before it left the lot... Made a deal with my dealer and traded the set for stuff to bolt onto my truck. Worked out good.
     
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  15. rapidtrans

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    Hydroplaning @ 70 mph on the Turnpike heading to Carlisle is a little too exciting!
     

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