This thread is in response to Dave's news post on how the Promaster is doing. I see the full size Promasters all over the place here in the Minneapolis-St. Paul twin cities, they also look great in the USPS livery. My son manages a fleet that includes both the Ford Transit and Ram Promaster cargo vans along with Transit and Chevy passenger vans. There is a lot of frustration over the Rams not being available in passenger versions. The Ford vans have had issues while the GM products are thirsty. It is possible to buy a Promaster passenger van from a conversion outfitter, but this can't be done on a fleet order. Another point of frustration is change comes to the Promaster at a glacial pace. Maybe that's a good thing since the Promaster has avoided the teething problems that came with the 9-speed transaxle. Things I would like to see would be the Pacifica's PHEV setup and the BSG mild hybrid. Now that the new four cylinder is standing at the door, it would be interesting to see if the Iveco Daily hits our shores. The e-Torque from the Wrangler would be great in the Daily. That vehicle could fill in the gaps of the van market the Promaster doesn't cover.