Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by chfjim, Sep 29, 2016.
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention but FCA makes lots of flying cars these day. It's what we've come to expect
Well said! Well said . . .
But, I can be something of a literalist:
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Exactly! since complacency is the lowest common denominator, you’re right. LOL! Bring on Bob. LOL!
Back in the day it would be spelled out why they didnt make a 392 R/T Ram.
Dagnabit experts! Usin’ they're knowledge against my ignorance! What makes them so special besides they’re impeccable, specialized, in-depth understanding of highly technical fields of endeavor? That’s right NOTHIN!
And the 2 posts prior to @freshforged are why I have limited my involvement in the forums recently.
Hey, for years there was "no business case" for the Durango SRT and yet it eventually appeared.
Hopefully something is in the works for the trucks.
Same for the Police Interceptor Durango. No business case, no capacity, etc (we were told) only to have it appear suddenly one day.
With the revival of the Scat Pack, the word that the challenger'challenger's love is about to be spread to the charger, the Rebel TRX being greenlighted, I would very much believe you will see the reiteration of the Adult Toys. I think it might get even crazy enough to see the ProMaster end up with a StreetVan. We are living in a better equipped era of a muscle car and muscle truck era.
We all want what we want, but there are legitimate reasons that some of the things we want are not currently available. It is a business and if the company doesn't make money (by expending resources on low volume niche vehicles that don't sell as well as expected), they go out of business and don't make any vehicles at all.
Aggravating engineers isn't going to change that.
Rather than incite riots because we don't have what we want, why not anxiously look forward to the things that are coming (let alone the things that are here - Redeye? how awesome is that?)?
Anybody have any hints regarding the suspension details of the coming TRX? There are plenty of rumors about power plants, but nothing about how aggressive the suspension will be.
There was rumor of a suspension mule caught in the wild, but that vehicle did not have the TRX's wide track, flared fenders, etc. That doesn't mean it didn't have the 13" travel suspension, bypass shocks, etc. I couldn't see anything in the spy shots. Anyone else have any more information?
Don't give up on us I really appreciate the feedback from you and some of the others.
6.4 Truck uses same block casting (BGE) as 6.2 Hellcat
6.4 Truck uses same head casting as 6.2 Hellcat
For 2018 some 6.4 SRT are appearing with the BGE block.
5.7 Eagle and 6.4 Apache (SRT) share the same block casting
Frustrating isn’t it? Just stick it in their they say with no consideration for SAE standards, cost of development for electronic controls, cost of certification, cost of modifying existing components to work on both like intake manifolds, etc.
Most people have no idea the 6.4 Truck uses a different block than the 5.7 or the 6.4 SRT. They also do not know it uses different cylinder heads that are a higher flow. They do not consider all the changes that have to be made to accommodate the engine on the electronics side. Physically most everything will bolt up, but that doesn’t mean it is the right combination of parts to be efficient. It also doesn’t mean that it will meet emissions requirements out of the box using the base 5.7 or even the 6.4 HD programming.
Sigh... why invest all that money on a truck that was originally going to be replaced 3 or so years ago but was delayed for the plant shuffle where money was clearly being invested in the production facilities so more capacity and better trucks could be built.
No one is knocking people down for asking questions. Reasons are being stated as to why some things people are wanting to see have not happened. Research the items Mike mentions in the second sentence of his post (SAE standards, cost of development, etc) along with all the other Federal Government required standards then come up with a business case for putting the 6.4 in a Ram 1500 and present it to FCA. If your *facts* are convincing enough they will do it.
As my tagline says, "Don't raise your voice, improve your argument."
I'm a bit biased but was very impressed with the engineering behind the 6.4 BGE. The whole motor is built like a tank. Especially when you consider it only cost $1,400 over the 5.7. Yes, I'd like to see a new trans behind it and maybe some additional torque but was a very solid effort on Ram's part.
So some 2017 6.4 SRT and prior to that are different than newer 6.4 SRT?
Any reason for the change or just logistics ?
No, I did not say anything about 2017.
I said some, not all, 2018 6.4 SRT’s have the BGE block. I do not know why. It was recently discovered by one of the known speed shops that handle gen 3 Hemi’s. They found a BGE block in a 2018 Scat Pack. More research is being done.
So these BGE's that are appearing in some Scat Packs... are any owners reporting higher than normal output on the dyno or better ET's at the track?