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Rebel TRX!!! Hellcat RAM

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by chfjim, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. IronMike3406

    IronMike3406 Well-Known Member

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    I beg to differ on this subject.... You would be surprised on how many lawn maintenance guys around here tow with their zero turns and equipment trailers here with the Raptors so the market is there.
     
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  2. VoiceOfReason

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    Perhaps, but I see a lot of Raptors in this area (south east Michigan) and a lot of landscaping trailers and never once the two together. That isn't to say it can't or shouldn't be done, but of all the times I've seen Raptors in this area, not once were any of them towing anything. That said, south east Michigan is not the entire country, so other observations may differ.
    My point is, a high speed Baja pre-runner is not ideally suited to towing. A 1500 Tradesman or Big Horn properly equipped tows significantly more (on the order of 4,000 lbs more) and does it for far less money. The high speed nature of a TRX is likely to possess characteristics that favor speed over towing such that it will, just like the Raptor, have a lower tow rating than non-high speed trucks. Could they engineer it to facilitate both high speed and a high tow rating? Perhaps, but I suspect the cost to do both would not compel them to implement such a design. Also, trying to straddle two generally incompatible features tends to produce a result that does both suboptimally. Flying cars, as cool a concept as that is, probably do not exist in any realistic capacity because attempts in the past have produced things that are both lousy cars and and lousy aircraft; they do both poorly. A high tow rating TRX would not be as drastic a compromise, but it would likely involve compromise that many find unwelcome. 8,000 lbs or so towing on a high speed truck is plenty. If you need more than that and you want a dune runner, you buy two trucks.
     
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    Does anyone know what the likelihood is of us seeing a production TRX in that Header Red color?
    I realize that the production versions will not have 30 some coats of paint, but I just cannot get enough of that color.
     
  5. Ryan

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    It looks very similar to Delmonico so I kind of doubt it.
     
  6. thebluegoat

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    Around here it's power wagons. Haven't seen a landscaping company without one yet
     
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    Wow, your landscapers charge too much!
     
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  8. ramajama

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    Hmmmmm. There we go. FWIW, that BH looks pretty good with those wheels and tires. :)
     
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  9. VoiceOfReason

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    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    [​IMG]

    And people thought I was crazy when I shot a suspension mule in a Big Horn skin in March!
     
  11. Devildodge

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    This TRX is making bighorn look great, can't wait to see how awesome the finished product is.
     
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    Something new...we're not used to that around these parts. LOL

    Can't wait to see what this truck actually will look like. :D
     
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    Just noticed the headache rack on it, make it appear to be a sold unit.?
     
  14. VoiceOfReason

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    #1036 VoiceOfReason, Aug 31, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2018
  15. BobbiBigWheels

    BobbiBigWheels The "Front-Line" Perspective

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    CLICK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

    Us dealers get exactly 0 insight - why do you think I began frequenting these sites?
     
  16. VoiceOfReason

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    FCA US Media - FCA US Reports 2018 August Sales (at http://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=20271&mid=1 )
    “Our August results highlight how the all-new Ram light duty is coming into its own,” said Reid Bigland, Head of U.S. Sales. “Ram light-duty total sales rose 55 percent to 36,798 vehicles for the month.”
    49,912 (total monthly sales for August 2018).
    36,798 = .55(x) + x = x(.55 + 1)
    36,798/1.55 = x = 23,741
    55% of 23,741 is 13,057
    So, Ram light-duty total sales would have been 23,741.
    They are now 36,798 given the 55% increase from August 2017 to August 2018.
    49,912 - 36,798 = 13,114; So, 36,798 light-duty vs. 13,114 heavy-duty is 73.3% and 26.3% respectively.
    36,798
    ------ = 73.7%
    49,912
    13,114
    ------ = 26.3%
    49,912
    So, roughly 1/4 of new truck sales were heavy duty in August.
    (which may be atypical as this included a 55% increase)
    Need total from 2017 to do comparable percentage (37,608).
    23,741
    ------ = 63.1%
    37,608
    FCA US Media - FCA US Reports August 2017 Sales (at http://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=18534&mid=&searchresult )
    So, in August of 2017, a more typical sales cycle, light-duty trucks amounted to 63% of truck sales.
    In August 2018, an atypical sales cycle (*), light-duty trucks amounted to 74% of truck sales.
    (* 1500 refresh being sold in parallel with the classic models while HD truck refresh not out yet)
    So, overall, heavy-duty trucks are likely about 40% of the total FCA US LLC truck market.
     
  17. JRS200x

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    Dealers get less insight on future product that all of you. Outside the once in a blue moon dealer meeting where they actually show future product and make us all basically sign NDA's, we know nothing.
     
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    Are there any OEM's that rise above the pack with better communication with their dealers?
     

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