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Renegade Cabin Filter

Discussion in 'Compacts: Renegade, Patriot, Compass, Caliber' started by Lone Renegade, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. Lone Renegade

    Lone Renegade Active Member

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    When I was buying a new car I kind of figured cabin filters are standard these days. However after an off road trip this weekend on a dusty road, I figured I'd turn by vents up and I got sand blasted by them! The whole car is a mess too, this was a 5+ hour excursion so I had to have the vents on or windows down at some point. Owners manual just says take it to the dealer on cabin filters, my window sticker doesn't mention cabin filter either. So was a filter an option or was it maybe not installed by the factory?
     
  2. link3721

    link3721 Yes, This MK Goes Off-Road

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    They aren't always installed on all trim levels. The cabin filter is generally behind the glove box. You have to open it up, empty the glove box then drop the glove box door to access it.
     
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  3. Lone Renegade

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    Yeah I was just asking before I go removing 7 screws, side trim, glove box and some liner in the foot well.
     
  4. Bob Lincoln

    Bob Lincoln "CHECK FAULT CODES"
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    Does it really involve that much? On my Chrysler 200, you open the glove box door, lift slightly and disengage the cable that supports it when open, then drop the door down, squeeze the sides slightly to pop the door out, set it aside, pop open the cover to access the cabin filter, swap it out, and reverse the process. Five minutes or less.
     
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    vipergg Well-Known Member

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    I have a lowly 14 grand Caravan AVP model and even I found out about 2 weeks ago it has a cabin filter and it is behind the glovebox. Wasnt real hard to get at it . This feature was not even on the original factory sticker . I have to believe most have now whether they say so or not . They are not going to make separate hvac setups for the same model . Maybe they just dont install the filter in some , I dont know . If my AVP had it I would think most have it . I bet if it's missing there is a spot for one so just buy one and stick it in . It was filthy though after 95000 miles . got at it pretty much like Bob Lincoln said .
     
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  6. ImperialCrown

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    The premium ATC and dual-zones were more likely to have the cabin filter than the base HVAC. Still it is worth a look. If the door is there to change out the filter, you may be able to add one.
    Lay newspaper on the carpet before removing the old filter as it can dump debris as you pull it out. Parking under or around trees or in dusty country can mean shorter filter replacement intervals. Many times this filter is neglected as it is out of sight, out of mind. Some customers had never heard of a cabin filter.
    My wife likes the Febreeze replacement and there are HEPA-spec filters for replacement. Great for those with respiratory challenges.
     
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  7. Bob Lincoln

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    I've changed filters twice in our cars, this next change is with HEPA filters. They are gray in color instead of white, when new.
     
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    That's a lot more painful than my car.
     
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    The gray paper may 'look' dirty on a brand new filter, but that is because the paper is impregnated with activated charcoal particles. Activated charcoal can trap may odors that may pass through regular paper.
    The old carbureted Mitsubishi air filters did this to trap hydrocarbon fumes from the float bowl as they didn't use a dedicated bowl vent line to the charcoal canister. Many air filters were unnecessarily replaced because people thought that they were dirty.
     
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  10. DC-93

    DC-93 Well-Known Member

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    Depending on circumstances, cabin filters can last a long time.

    So to engine air filters. I remember seeing pleated paper filters that we tested and were black and still flowed at 98.5 % the rate of a new one.

    An almost plugged filter will limit top end HP, but not fuel mileage, since the electronics keep the ratio correct.
    Also, the biggest "plug" in the air intake system is an almost closed throttle blade! (where the throttle controls air)
    Driving on the highway, the blade is almost closed!!

    Old carb systems without fuel feedback need a cleaner filter, but the theory is the same.
     
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  11. valiant67

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    I can believe that. I pulled what was likely the original cabin filter out of my 2005 300c at 125k miles. I'll be honest, I never knew it had one and the dealer never suggested one at any oil change. They had sold the car new, and I bought it from them around 60k miles. I doubt they suggested it to the original owner if they never suggested it to me.

    Once I found out the car had one, I changed it. It wasn't pretty but the filter still had good airflow.
     
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  12. Lone Renegade

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    On the weekend I got around to opening up the dash and checking it out. So it did have a cabin filter after all, just turns out after 16k miles and lots of dirt roads it was full to the brim and leaking fine particles. I changed it out. I've had 3 oil changes at dealerships provided by the Jeep Wave program which is supposed to include cabin filter inspections, they even check mark the box they do. But this is something I'd rather replace myself so I know it's been done.
     
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