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Tax cuts for FCA

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Ingvar, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. David S

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    I wonder why they don't turn it into the rally subbrand of Alfa like Abarth is the subbrand of Fiat.
     
  2. David S

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    Really? The FWD compact and midsize cars are on their way back? There are prototypes of the Dodge and Chrysler compact and midsize CUVs running around? They are only 5 years behind schedule.
     
  3. David S

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    IIHS has their new test for headlights, points are taken off for glare that blinds other drivers.

    I was at a restaurant the other day, there was a lifted Wrangler with LEDs, really blinding at eye level for anyone driving a car. The new Cherokee and Ram are going backwards on this, the headlights were in the right place before, now they are too high.
     
  4. David S

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    Actually it is probably the new exotic materials that drove the price up a few thousand dollars. High strength aluminum alloys and magnesium dropped the weight by 200 lbs.
     
  5. David S

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    That's how every car got CHMSL, airbags, ABS, ESC, etc.
     
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    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    Totally agree there. My Darts auto highs would occasionally blind itself (and us) on signage, lol.

    Goes back to what I was saying about hids vs reflectors with dual filament bulbs. Hids are always the same intensity, regardless of whether the highs are on or not.
     
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  7. David S

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    Build the vehicles that were in their original plan, Chrysler and Dodge compact and midsize cars and CUVs.
     
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  8. Lampredi

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  9. Lampredi

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    Probably because neither suggestion is a good idea...
     
  10. suzq044

    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    I would still like to see a modern Jeep in rally, or rallycross, and maybe ram for stadium supercross. Lol. Renegade seems made for rally/cross, imo.
     
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  11. DAGAR

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    Well, similar but different - the OP suggested that one couldn't offer safety equipment on high level vehicles unless also on low end. That's quite different than mandated to include...
     
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  12. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    Been there, done that.
     
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  13. suzq044

    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    Nope. I mean like this:
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    Not just having a "rallye" trim level or bumper/bodykit.
     
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  14. David S

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    So you prefer it reduced to a single minicar econobox, or did you have another suggestion for what to do with it?
     
  15. Lampredi

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    That's not an ideal option, but still leaps and bounds better than selling it or turning it into a sub-brand.
    FCA should either rebuild it (and not by rebadging another brand's products), or close it down.
     
  16. IronMike3406

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    Sorry Lancia was in dire straights long before the acquisition of Chrysler try the 1960's ! Yes they have had some very innovative vehicles in their illustrious years but Lancia downfall is much deeper than placing the blame on FCA.
     
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  17. EVOL

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    Why would selling Lancia be a bad idea? It couldn't possibly be run worse than it is right now. You might even see it totally rebuilt beyond your wildest dreams if the right people got a hold of it. If I was a Lancia fan I'd be pushing for a sale to Geely and get the same treatment they gave Volvo.
     
  18. Lampredi

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    No argument there. My point was that the blatant rebadge job performed under FCA leadership did not constitute any proper attempt to rebuild Lancia - on the contrary it made things worse, and was by all indications the final nail in the coffin.
     
  19. Lampredi

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    It would be a bad idea for FCA to sell Lancia, because it would involve arming one of FCA's competitors with a strong brand. Why would FCA want to do that, most likely only for a one-time settlement (perhaps even an insignificant one)? It's not in the long term interest of FCA to do so, and it should look at Ford's huge strategic error (arguably a necessary one at the time, but still) of selling Volvo to China and JLR to India and seek not to repeat it.
    Apart from the fact that I don't see how people would want a Chinese Lancia or actively advocate for even more automotive production lost to China (which Geely has already contributed to, see the S90), I don't see why it would be in FCA's interest to contribute to such a scenario as the one you describe.
     
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    Management compensation and debt buy down.
     

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