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The Charger & Challenger Aren’t Going Anywhere

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Hemidakota, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. Ernesto

    Ernesto Active Member

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    EPA does interior volume to determine car size. My 1987 LaBaron coupe was midsize. The convertible version was compact. In the olden times, exterior dimensions were used to determine size. My first new Mopar was a midsize 1967 Plymouth Bevedere 2 door hard top. The convertible was midsize, too. That gem made me stuck on Mopar.

    BTW. The midsize Belvedere was 200" long, 76.5" wide with a 116" wheelbase. Petty won 10 consecutive NASCAR races with this body. I was stuck on NASCAR. Today? I don't bother.
     
  2. Ernesto

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    Ghibli is a D segment midsize car with a large exterior.
     
  3. T_690

    T_690 Well-Known Member

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    They can do that. LX cars in their current form are not space efficient.
     
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  4. T_690

    T_690 Well-Known Member

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    No. Ghibli is a luxury E segment.
    According to EPA it offers more passenger volume than Dodge Charger.

    Larger Maserati sedan is a luxury F segment.
     
  5. James A

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    More back head room perhaps?
     
  6. valiant67

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    EPA only considers total cubic feet of interior passenger and luggage space, not where the space is in each category or if it's even usable to the occupant. It appears the Ghibli scarifies luggage space for passenger space and ends up as a midsize car to the EPA (all measurements in cu ft, 119+ cu ft is large car):
    Charger:105 passenger, 16 luggage (large car, 121 total)
    300: 106 passenger 16 luggage (large car, 122 total)
    Ghibli: 108 passenger, 10 luggage (midsize car, 118 total)
    Giulia: 100 passenger, 12 luggage (midsize car. 112 total)
    Challenger: 94 passenger, 16 luggage (midsize car, 110 total)
     
  7. Ernesto

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    valiant67 is correct. Ghibli is wider but shorter than Charger on the outside.
     
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  8. Hemidakota

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    Yes, most articles outside of the insiders are nothing more than to WET the APPETITE per say. It is not 2020 but 2021 model year the next gen will come. The main reasoning of posting is to allow insiders to correct the articles and point out future lines/powertrains.
     
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  9. evh5150vanhalen

    evh5150vanhalen Well-Known Member

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    Something has changed since march-april?

    ResumeSpeed has said several times 2020 426 7.0L H.O

    That would be quite disappointing and totally change plans I had for next year.
     
  10. mopar22

    mopar22 Well-Known Member

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    2020 release date and 2020 model year are two very different things, just food for thought
     
  11. Ryan

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    Looks like it has changed. Let's hope it changes back to a 2020 MY release.
     
  12. MoparJoe

    MoparJoe Well-Known Member

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    It changed ... they have some special things going to happen to keep them fresh before the 7.0L (426) comes out though ...

    My prediction for the next gen convertibles is they will sell over 30,000 the 1st year ... IF PRODUCTION CAN HANDLE THAT MUCH ....
    426 hemi shaker convert .... they will sell everyone they could make the 1st couple years ....
     
  13. TheViking

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    AWD Hellcat? :D
     
  14. Ryan

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    Personally, I'm hoping for a Charger Scat Pack 1320.
     
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  15. MoparJoe

    MoparJoe Well-Known Member

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    Charger will see some loving ....
     
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  16. Thom Paré

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    Good news/bad news

    Good news is that the design team is working on the next generation Charger, Challenger, AND a "Magnum".
    Bad news is that the "Magnum" may not make it to production.

    That's all I have for now.
     
  17. GasAxe

    GasAxe Well-Known Member

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    Interesting evolution if the Magnum returned, after being replaced by the Challenger, to replace the 300, the car that kicked off the L series renaissance.
     
  18. Satellite Saint

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    Hey Thom, do you know if the Magnum they are designing is a station wagon like the old one or a name being put on a CUV/SUV?
     
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  19. evh5150vanhalen

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    Resumespeed also mentioned a refresh before the next gen cars arrive.. has that also changed?
    I’m also waiting to see if Black Eye makes it into production aswell.
     
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  20. Thom Paré

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    I don't know anymore than what I stated above. I do hope to find out more though.
     

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