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The future of Wrangler

Discussion in 'Rumors and Speculation' started by CherokeeVision, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. CherokeeVision

    CherokeeVision Well-Known Member

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    Grand Cherokee shopper that wants more room...
    "Here we have the Durango, which has more room."
    "Great. Does it have the same 4x4 systems as the Grand Cherokee?"
    "Well, no."
    "I'll live with less space then."
     
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  2. DarkSky

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    How many customers actually care about the 4x4 systems in their SUVs? Most of the Cherokees/Compasses/Renegades we sell are actually FWD, which could mean that people are either only buying them because they're a Jeep or because they're currently the only option from FCA in those segments.
     
  3. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic
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    Someday they'll have a fancy new Wagoneer/Grand W to show them. Someday. Some sunny day. :p
     
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  4. redriderbob

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    Actually about a year you will start seeing mules for a 2019 launch for the 2020 model year... its getting here quickly!
     
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  5. redriderbob

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    None of those vehicles are true 4X4s, they are AWD systems. I still love my first generation Durango with the floor mounted part-time 4X4 shifter. Nothing like knowing there is nothing electronic standing in my way of my mechanical 4X4 system.

    Luckily the 2018 Power Wagon still comes that way... even has the same shifter knob my 2000 Dodge Durango SLT 4X4 had.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. geraldg

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    Jeep is selling because of the name, people think Jeep think ruggedness whether they use it or not.
     
  7. aldo90731

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    That's because FCA made the decision to offer FWD versions to get the volume, thus attracting many non-4x4 shoppers.

    If FCA had decided that Jeep would only offer 4x4 versions because "that's who Jeep is", the volume of shoppers wouldn't be as great, but those coming in would likely be more discerning of 4WD systems.

    PS: I find it ironic how Dodge and Chrysler are held to narrow brand interpretations, but Jeep isn't.
     
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    You left out that while they are posting about videogames on Facebook.....they are also listening to the local sports-radio station.:D
     
  9. aldo90731

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    Yup. This is something Wrangler owners refuse to give up. Even if you need to lift weights to engage Rubicon's Rock-Trac lever.
     
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  10. Mike V.

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    Full time 4WD Wrangler buyers will be giving it up. I have a feeling this option will be incredibly popular on Sahara models.

    Mike
     
  11. CudaPete

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    Back in the DOJ thread, one of the few things everyone (even Norm RIP) seemed to agree upon was to add a "Selec-Trac" type tranfer case to the Wrangler so you can use the 4wd on dry pavement.
     
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    The latter. Jeep is FCA's current mainstream brand. Oh, and it has Wrangler as well.
     
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    Indeed. Selec-Trac was an amazing 4WD system with the capability to be used full-time on and off-road, with real LOW gearing.

    There's talk that Selec-Trac will reappear in JL. However, depending who you ask, Select-Trac may be little more than a glorified AWD system that uses a rotary dial --hence the name.
     
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  14. redriderbob

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    For urban Wranglers yes.
     
  15. Erik Latranyi

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    It will be interesting to see how the use of an AWD system on the Wrangler will affect used prices down the road. It is not of interest to FCA, but, there will be challenge for those that want to modify and use Jeeps off-road to find those with the traditional, mechanical 4-wheel drive system rather than, what I believe will be very popular, AWD system.
     
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    I'm excited to see them, but for me it'll be a little bittersweet. I was always planning on getting one, but I can't wait that long. Most likely will be getting a Durango next year...won't be disappointed at all by that...but I always had my heart set on Wagoneer. There's just something about a Jeep, at least for me.
     
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    The slot-machine lever in my Liberty gets ever more ornery as the vehicle gets older...just like me. That being said, I think I'd prefer it over a dial (though I haven't experienced one yet).
     
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  18. Zagnut27

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    I guess it depends on what type of AWD system it is... a different transfer case like the 242 vs an AWD system similar to what's available in the other Jeeps. Changing out a transfer case isn't a big deal, I actually considered it for my Liberty on the advice of Norm and Bob S. But if it's an AWD system, then much more difficult I would imagine and maybe not worth the effort. Has this officially been determined which type of system it will be?
     
  19. dmcdonald

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    AWD systems can be VERY capable and have true low gearing.

    Also, an AWD Wrangler will appeal to more than just urban owners. People who live in cold wet climates may welcome the advantages of an AWD system. Wranglers are used in many off road situations that are not rock crawling.
     
  20. aldo90731

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    Right...

    If you "need" AWD there's Grand Cherokee, and Hondas.
     
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