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Wagoneer delayed - change of plans, screwup, or what?

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    But everyone said Autoline was lying and wasn't a good source.
     
  3. npaladin2000

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    Not surprising.
     
  4. Dave Z

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    I didn’t say either of those things...

    That said, sorry about the server glitch a couple of minutes ago.
     
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  5. Christopher

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    I don't want to be Mr. Negativity here like so many, but this just doesn't sound good to me. They seem to be kicking the can down the road and hoping things will work out by the time they get there.
     
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  6. 1969 300

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    I can see where you are coming from. My guess is that like with the K-Car in 1981, once the new 1500 and Wrangler are launched at a greater clip, more revenues will flow in (along with the debt being paid down) and some of these projects- including the Wagoneer and the Chrysler CUVs- will be put on the fast track again. My only concern is that the Chrysler brand will be completely irrelevant by then.
     
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    I found this interesting article from Australia. It talks of a three-row Grand Cherokee. A lot of tea leaves....

    I guess the question now is Warren Truck. From what I was heard, workers were told by plant management at a meeting that they are looking at keeping the plant at least a two-shift operation albeit at a slower line rate. I have also heard rumors about some work being moved back to the US from Mexico which is quickly becoming vogue these days with Trump. My guess- and it is only that- is that WTAP will start building some 2500 and 3500 HDs and later a BOF SUV(s).
     
  8. Zagnut27

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    I wonder, since I don't follow any of the other brands, do they have as many product delays & cancellations (not saying this is a cancellation...yet)?? Viewing FCA by itself via a narrow lens certainly gives the impression that they have no idea what they are doing more often than not.
     
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  9. redriderbob

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    Agreed. I have been hearing the program is still on schedule from my sources. Remember the program was originally supposed to have a launch of 2016 model year. That was in 2009.

    BTW, @Christopher nice avatar of the Saginaw!
     
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  10. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    Many of the same that said Marchionne didn't make an offer to GM via email.....
     
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  11. romalerig

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    Guys, we are near the end of the year which means.....Just a tip, wait for january ;)
     
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    How may millions have been spent on development since 2009 and now they want to cancel it? :confused:
     
  13. npaladin2000

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    How dare you counsel patience. This is the Internet, things like logic and patience and understanding have no place here! :)
     
  14. DBY2014

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    For what- concept vehicles?
     
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    Wow. I try to stay positive about things but this is bad news.
     
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    I don't find this surprising from the standpoint that the vehicle is basically ready for production only waiting for a place in line. It maybe time to consider expansion. If the emphasis of the political administration, which will be "in" shortly, is on production here in the States, it might be a good time to negotiate some concessions (get a DEAL done). This would be beneficial to FCA and the Administration to be. The land is available, as I understand, but FCA could use some help in financing. This just could turn into a win/win situation for FCA, US manufacturing, and Jeep in particular.
     
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  17. Mike V.

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    And I still am... Warren isn't ready yet.

    All the hints were right there in front of them and they and plenty of people on Allpar made assumptions that were not correct.

    Kudos to Allpar and AN for at least getting the story straight.

    Mike
     
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  18. Mike V.

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    No it's not... plant shuffle is in progress and everyone knew that the soonest it would be here was 2019 MY anyway... which can be as far as 3 years from now.

    Mike
     
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  19. Mike V.

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    So true. January may be bigger than anyone here could have ever expected.

    Mike
     
  20. MJAB

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    It seems FCA arrived to do what they wanted: limit informations that goes outside the company to what they want to make leak outside (true and/or false news).
     

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