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Wagoneer delayed - change of plans, screwup, or what?

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    They still play with clay.

    Mike
     
  2. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    They are just waiting for a place to build it.

    Mike
     
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  3. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    You are spouting off again on things you know nothing about.

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  4. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Good example image. Clay is now high tech and still a major part of design for the auto companies.

    Mike
     
  5. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    Yes, and while they use computers and robots to do much of the models, they still "finish" them by hand or use their hands to tweak the design.
     
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  6. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Yes sir, it's certainly not a lost art and still an integral part of automotive design.

    All those great concept drawings still have to go through the clay step before being built.

    Mike
     
  7. wtxiceman

    wtxiceman Well-Known Member

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    Can they use the clay model for wind tunnel testing?
     
  8. cygnus

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    One thing I've noticed about the Jeep Grand Cherokee design language evolution - the 7 bars keep getting smaller in height, with the front bumper 'lip' getting bigger. I expect this to continue.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a slightly more 'tapered' headlight that wraps around the body, just a little bit. See how the Grand Cherokee headlight is 'mostly' forward facing? Now look at the new Compass - it wraps around just a little bit more.

    These are just guesses though.
     
  9. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    The grille at the top, for most vehicles now, is not really functional. Most vehicles are "bottom breathers" and the grille is just decoration.
     
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    I suspect the increased frontal area of the bumper help aero and pedestrian impact standards.

    I'd still like the Wagoneer to go a bit retro with a canted forward nose like Ram.
     
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  11. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    Yes, I think they may be missing out if they do not go aero. They spent a lot of time talking to Grand Wagoneer owners and the styling is still solid if they give it a modern update.

    A "me-too" that looks too much like the Grand Cherokee is playing it too safe.
     
  12. Lee N. Burns

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    I could see myself interested in this new vehicle and that's saying something because I'm not an SUV guy. But if styling is just a larger GC, I shall not be moved.
     
  13. MPE426HEMI

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    I'd like to see the Jeep treatment on this vehicle, but something to call it's own. Not another GC clone. It's been done already.
     
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  14. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    In some cases, yes. Normally reduced scale wind tunnel testing is done with clay mock ups.

    Mike
     
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  15. freshforged

    freshforged Well-Known Member

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    styling /= design
    clearly they have a styling preference for the vehicle, that being said it could very well be that the overall design has yet to be finalized.
     
  16. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    You are right.

    I think it is styling and engineering that create the design. But I do not have Bob to fall back on to confirm that.
     
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  17. mopar22

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    They go through smaller versions first when they have a few design directions don't they?

    Also does anyone know how to because a clay sculpture?
     
  18. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Yes.

    I don't understand your question.

    Mike
     
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    Right down to slapping a coat of paint on them.
     

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