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Who gets the new six?

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    It’s still some time out, but a GME-based turbo six is almost certainly coming. Where is it going to be made?

    Fortunately, FCA has no shortage of relatively new or renovated plants in Michigan.

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    Dundee is a twin-plant complex, but currently there’s just one shift working in one plant, making “World Gasoline Engine” (WGE) four-cylinders. Trenton, another twin-plant complex, is busily making both those four-cylinders and the Pentastar V6, along with parts and blocks. Then there’s Mack Avenue, another twin-plant complex, currently engaged in making Pentastar V6 engines and parts.

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    Mack’s advantages include being closest to most of the plants that would use the GME T6, and going from “World Class Manufacturing” bronze to silver in just 15 months, “an unprecedented achievement,” according to FCA. If the engine is to be used in Grand Cherokees, it helps that Mack Avenue is very close to the Jefferson Avenue Assembly Plant, too.

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    There is an added complication: FCA will need many more 2-liter turbocharged four-cylinders soon, and the old WGE fours will be phased out sooner or later.

    If this engine is meant for high-volume production, there may well be two or more lines, in two different plants.

    Timing for the GME T6 is still unknown, with some sources claiming it’s at least two years out, and others saying it’s closer. Two years seems like a reasonable median, but we do not know FCA’s schedule, so if it takes four years, that does not mean it was delayed. There has been no official announcement of the GME T6’s existence, but there have been many supporting clues.

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    Regardless, it seems unlikely that FCA will either build a new plant or send production of this new engine off to Mexico. One could argue for using some of Italy’s spare capacity, but so far, FCA has re-used existing plants even if it had to gut the interior and start over. That’s good news for FCA’s many union workers, and the communities they support.

    Read the whole post here.
     
  2. James A

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    Excited for this motor. Looking forward to the details on power out puts
     
  3. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    dodgeatheart Not THAT guy again!

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    Fa18 hornet?
     
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    Powered by the new Dodge Photoshop doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
     
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  7. CherokeeVision

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    Viper was an unofficial name for the F-16 before Falcon was chosen.
    I don't know if that means anything in relation to that photo.
     
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  8. Moparian

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    Those who fly it still call it Viper.
     
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  9. DAGAR

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    those are F16 Falcons (Vipers) not F18s
     
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    The Viper plant? Conner Ave?
     
  11. Zagnut27

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    It has as much power as an F16? :p
     
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    As much as an infinite number of F16s.
     
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  13. Tin Man 2

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    I would think the new 6 and 4 would be built in the same plant, isn't this engine family designed to use different numbers of the same parts as much as possible? Much like Mound Rd. Engine used to make the 318 and the cut down v6 version on the same fixtures and machining tools. I would think you would want to be flexible as to product mix to account for demand.
     
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  14. Roryn44

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    More jets than our airforce in that picture ahahahah
     
  15. Zagnut27

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    That is super AWESOME!!! Now if Wrangler gets that AND VTOL capability, then POOF! My brain just exploded. :p:D
     
  16. somber

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    Or will it cost as much as an F16?
     
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  17. HotCarNut

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    Hmmmm....does that mean the debut for this engine would be a high-hp application in the Viper replacement (a la Ford’s high-hp Ecoboost V6 in the Ford GT)?
     
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  18. freshforged

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    Viper replacement is way off yet. No way the GME T6 debuts in that. Next year or the year after unless all hell breaks loose.
     
  19. vipergg

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    I'm hoping it is a I6 motor and not a V6 . I6's are noticeably smoother than a V6 .
     
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  20. HotCarNut

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    Yes,
    and they also take up a lot more space, especially with turbo-charging. From a packaging standpoint, they are probably limited to longitudinal mounting applications (think L-series, RAM 1500, Jeep Wrangler and GC/Durango). The rumored Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer would probably also be able to use them.
     

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