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Who gets the new six?

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. mentalicca

    mentalicca Well-Known Member

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    That's still North America.
     
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  2. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    Not GME-T6
     
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  3. BobbiBigWheels

    BobbiBigWheels The "Front-Line" Perspective

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    The joke was toward the "All American" and the LD/LX cars being built in Canada is all ;)
     
  4. T_690

    T_690 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe some would not like it but if "helper" is Mazzucconi there is no better.
     
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  5. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    American Muscle ----- errrr Designed in America, Assembled in Canada Muscle ;)
     
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    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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  7. mentalicca

    mentalicca Well-Known Member

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    No worries I got the joke. Merely making more obvious that American made can mean more than USA.
     
  8. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    No sir

    Mike
     
  9. BobbiBigWheels

    BobbiBigWheels The "Front-Line" Perspective

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    I feel as though the term "American" is exclusive of Canadians tbh. Not in a "I'm offended" kind of way, but us Canadians don't refer to ourselves as North American.

    EDIT - ...or American in general actually.

    Eh.
     
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    T_690 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying they are making engine blocks but they are certainly one of the best in the business.

    Also they can only provide tooling.
     
  11. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Certainly not arguing their credentials.

    Mike
     
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  12. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Need some cheese? :D

    Mike
     
  13. James A

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    I feel the same way. I've heard it said that Dodge and Benz are the two companies that make muscle cars... make of that what you will. I see Dodge aiming at the premium euro brands but with an American muscle individuality to it (especially with regard to SRT) in the next gen. I guess we'll see. Losing 200-300 lbs( is 300 lbs still considered realistic?) I think puts the Charger and Chally it in 5 series territory and with 2.0T's and I6's it's looking more and more like an American competitor to the Euro performance brands - with American muscle flare to it! IMO. Just an opinion!
     
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  14. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    BMW, Mercedes, and LRJ are not the only ones...

    GM has been developing a new inline six cylinder for some time. It is expected to be produced in Flint, Michigan. It will be used in rear wheel drive applications, just like FCA plans to use theirs. It will be used in the all new Silverado and Sierra pickups and is expected to be used in the Colorado and Canyon pickups.

    Ford had been producing successful inline six cylinder engines down under until 2010.

    Inline six cylinders have packaging advantages compared to TTV6’s, especially for rear wheel drive applications line trucks and SUV’s. Additionally the inline six is a smoother and more efficient design.

    Mike
     
  15. Adventurer55

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    I get why there's a move towards this straight six stuff. On paper, it makes sense, inline 6 built off a current engine. I get that, but their case for it begins to erode when it's known that the Pentastar will stay around for the foreseeable future. You make your new cars just like the competition, then you start getting compared to them item for item. And Bam Dodge loses. Why? Because customers are willing to overlook things if they feel they are getting something more then the others offer. The Dart and 200 are prime examples.
     
  16. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    Inline sixes are not smoother then a 60 degree V6. Maybe with balance shafts added.
     
  17. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    As explained before, this engine does not replace the Pentastar V6, it will eventually replace the base mode V8. The turbo four cylinder will eventually replace the Pentastar V6 in the future.

    As production ramps up on the turbo inline four over the next several years, the Pentastar will eventually be phased out.

    All the manufacturers are following the formula listed above, replace naturally aspirated V6 engines with turbo four cylinder engines and replace entry V8 is engines with turbocharged sixcyli der engines.

    Dodge is not losing anything.

    Again, Dodge is not losing anything. FCA will have a full line of engines that will range from highly efficient to high performance. All of these potential combinations have been discussed here on this forum.

    Mike
     
  18. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    That may be, but they do not have the Hemi name attached to their cars either.
     
  19. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Not correct, and inline six engine is naturally harmonic.

    Spinning cancels the rod swing vs engine shake. The cylinders are perpendicular to the crank which cancels which cancels back and forth forces of the crankshaft. The inline six is normally symmetric across the midplane which allows for pitching and yawing motions to be canceled out. The final degree of freedom is based on engine timing, and variable engine timing helps smooth this out.

    Modern inline six cylinder engines are known for being extremely smooth with very little NVH.

    Mike
     
  20. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Again, the Hemi is not going away.

    Mike
     
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