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Chrysler 361 Project

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Hello All I am building a 361ci Big Block I pulled out of a 1963 Chrysler Newport (also pulled the trans and rear axle to complete the set) but I am wondering if anyone knows what the original 4bbl carburetor that came on the 361.

My project is a 361 Bored .060 over, new pistons, new cam, 4bbl conversion from the old Stromberg 2bbl, resurface the crankshaft, and new valves in the heads, maybe a Bowl blend on the heads. I am utilizing the Factory rods and crankshaft be cause hey why throw out a Forged Crank and rods for something of lesser strength.

I'm hoping for 375+ HP, TQ will be what ever is adequately estimated for the HP numbers , not looking at a Drag car but something respectable on the street.

Right now I have a Weiand 8008 4bbl intake and a Holley 4160 (750cfm) Vacuum secondary, electric choke carb, I'm just wondering what the Factory 4bbl cfm was to judge HP and TQ by

Thanks.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Nah Im putting it in my 1967 Plymouth Barracuda, my Cuda is sitting with a slant six 225Ci right now I just want something a little more respectable, every one says my Barracuda is not a muscle car with a 6 cylinder, so I'm going to go big block,

I couldn't believe how mush crud was in that 361Ci, last that Newport was registered was in 1975 , guess it ran for 12 years with minimal to no maintenance, dont know if you can see the huge ridges at the top of each cylinder.
 
#5 ·
Love C-bodies but was hoping by your username it was going in a Cuda. 67 is still A body for the Barracudas right? I heard the factory big block instalation tool was a hammer on the inner fenders in A-bodies. Maybe you'll be a little gentler. How's the rest of the car looking with all that spunk going under the hood? I'm sure she'll make plenty of power for the street.
 
#7 ·
Nice project engine you don't see very often.
Not to be picky but the 361 was never considered a big block engine. Those were the 413, 426 and 440. There was a 383 from 1958 & 1959 that used the raised deck block from the RB engine family but that was eliminated to consolidate the engine machining process.
The 4bbl carbs used on those engines were Carter's.
375 HP is a reasonable number to expect with headers and that carb and a good exhaust system.
Production 4bbl - 361 engines used in the Plymouth Fury made 305 HP and around 390 ft/pds of torque.
Keep us posted on the build.
 
#12 · (Edited)
actually Chrysler Advertised (B) engines as Low deck Big Blocks 350Ci to 400Ci and the Raised deck Big Block as (RB) 413Ci to 440Ci and big blocks all share parts from one another including the heads for mine share with the 413Ci, only difference in the 413,426 and 440 are raised decks for the extra just under half inch stroke to get the extra Cubes. can't tell the difference between any of the big blocks unless you know what your looking for (Identification pad placement), also as I recall the "Golden Commando" in the Plymouth's Advertised "395" on the air cleaner not horse power mind you but torque.
 
#8 ·
That cleaned up nice. The Carter AFB (aluminum four barrel) was the 4-bbl offering. The 300J got 2 of them on cross-ram manifolds.

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#13 ·
Arent the AFB considered a 625 cfm carb usually.
- a 750 carb will last up to atleast 7000 rpm´s..
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This thing will like to rev, its basically a smallblock, big bore engine with bigblock heads..follow a modern 383 recipt and dont be afraid of revs but keep in mind that the oiling needs modification above 5500 rpms or so.
Get a true mopar cam wich takes advantage of the larger dia tappets that mopars have, hughes fex. ( you get more true valve opening for a given duration. )
 
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#16 ·
Yes, the 361 is a big block, (B, not RB), and yes, the 361 is a tough mother of a block. Go with a high volume oil pump, the extra half inch thickness over stock increases the oil volume to more than overcome any oiling problems, and is also known as the Hemi oil pump.

Schumacher (spelling), does have the motor mount conversion from slant 6 to V8 if you can't find the V8 K frame, cost would probably be a wash between the two, along with finding one.

Might want to check out someone like PST for heavier torsion bars. The slant 6 ones are a little small and handling will suffer in the corners, whereas thicker/larger diameter bars will keep her flatter in the corners. I got 1.14s for my 68 Charger and love the way it handles over stock ones.

375 hp would be a conservative estimate, depending on your camshaft specs. Since you are going to do some porting, make sure to remove the sharp edges inside the combustion chamber, especially the one that starts the quench pad. Remove it so the edge is removed flush with the angle of the combustion chamber and that 375 will be more than an underestimate of hp and torque.
 
#27 ·
Nothing wrong with a 361. It's a 383 with an eighth inch smaller bore and revs great, slightly better mileage, and extremely strong. I still have mine on a shelf to redo sometime in the future. Heck, it might even have the closed chamber heads, which is an added plus for compression.
 
#28 ·
Well I found it on a Classified as the Car was 600 dollars it had the engine, transmission, rear axle and drive shaft ,got all those parts out of the car then took the body to the auto recycling center and got 364 dollars for the body, so all in all I paid 246 bucks for an engine, transmission and rear axle, that's better than paying at least a thousand dollars just for a RB block ,believe me I looked at prices, then getting heads, then a transmission "New $2000+" or needs possible rebuilding if used "1000 at least", then an 8&3/4 rear axle from Dr diff for 800 bucks, I said heck why not get everything in one swoop for 600 bucks, didn't even know it would weigh as much when I took the body to the auto recyclers.