1966 Crown Coupe, 2016 200 S AWD, 1962 Lark Daytona V8.
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Welcome to Allpar. What is the numbers on the case? Were you given any Mopar part numbers for what you need?
The numbers don't appear to match any USA numbers. Some are barely readable.Welcome to Allpar. What is the numbers on the case? Were you given any Mopar part numbers for what you need?
I appreciate your help. However, I Don't know how many teeth are on second gear. You seem to be falling into the same trap. I need parts for the LIGHT DUTY car transmission, not the heavy duty trans. I think that is wherein the problem lies. I was told that when those WRONG parts were installed, there was a SPACE on the INPUT shaft. There is NOT supposed to be a space on the input shaft. I only know hat I have been told. I know NOTHING about transmissions, other than the fact that this was a transmission that was in a whole lot of Valiants & Darts in the 60s. I can not believe parts are unavailable for this transmission.The 170 cu in. used a standard-duty and the 225 cu in. used a heavy-duty 3-speed transmission. The unit assemblies may have interchangeable, some internal parts were different and you likely don't know the the car's past history. You may be able to match the right one visually?:
170 engine:
1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Mopar 3 Speed Manual Transmission Synchronizer NOS NORS – Classic NOS Parts (at http://www.classicnosparts.com/product/1963-1964-1965-1966-1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-plymouth-dodge-chrysler-mopar-3-speed-manual-transmission-synchronizer-nos-nors/ )
225 engine:
1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Mopar 3 Speed Heavy Duty Synchronizer Assembly NOS NORS – Classic NOS Parts (at http://www.classicnosparts.com/product/1963-1964-1965-1966-1967-1968-1969-plymouth-dodge-chrysler-mopar-3-speed-heavy-duty-synchronizer-assembly-nos-nors/ )
How many teeth on the 2nd gear?
Welcome to Allpar. What is the numbers on the case? Were you given any Mopar part numbers for what you need?
The 170 cu.in. is the light-duty transmission. The 2nd gear synchro kit is Mopar # 2464838. You can Google that for possible sources. I provided a link that I found by Googling: 'Mopar 2464838'.
I have no aftermarket look-up or cross-reference. Aftermarket part numbers are fairly meaningless to me. Sometimes looking up a Mopar number on Google will show you alternative part numbers.
The Mopar parts catalog only lets me determine the correct 2nd gear by tooth count. Is the trans together or apart?
The brass rings are the synchronizer rings. Is the 2nd gear itself OK and you just need the 2nd gear synchronizer assembly?
NEED BOTH SECOND GEAR & SECOND GEAR SYNCHRONIZER KIT. THE 2 BRASS SYCHRONIZER STOP RINGS WERE CHEWED UP IN 10 MILES. THOSE ARE THE BRASS SHAVINGS THAT WERE IN THE OIL WHEN THE TRANS WAS TAKEN OUT THE SECOND TIME. TRANS IS STILL OUT.The brass rings are the synchronizer rings. Is the 2nd gear itself OK and you just need the 2nd gear synchronizer assembly?
The 170 cu in. used a standard-duty and the 225 cu in. used a heavy-duty 3-speed transmission. The unit assemblies may have interchangeable, some internal parts were different and you likely don't know the the car's past history. You may be able to match the right one visually?:
170 engine:
1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971 Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Mopar 3 Speed Manual Transmission Synchronizer NOS NORS – Classic NOS Parts (at http://www.classicnosparts.com/product/1963-1964-1965-1966-1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-plymouth-dodge-chrysler-mopar-3-speed-manual-transmission-synchronizer-nos-nors/ )
225 engine:
1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Mopar 3 Speed Heavy Duty Synchronizer Assembly NOS NORS – Classic NOS Parts (at http://www.classicnosparts.com/product/1963-1964-1965-1966-1967-1968-1969-plymouth-dodge-chrysler-mopar-3-speed-heavy-duty-synchronizer-assembly-nos-nors/ )
How many teeth on the 2nd gear?
I am limited with non-Mopar part numbers. The best I can tell from the link is that BK299WS fits both a NP903 and A903 transmission. Otherwise there would be 2 different part numbers given AFAIK. Maybe the aftermarket listing is wrong? I would much more trust the factory parts catalog for being correct.
I was looking them up in the 1964 Chrysler passenger parts catalog here:
1964 Mopar Parts Book
On p. 21-12, see Synchronizer Unit (21-14-1). The standard duty one for Valiant and Dart is part # 2464838. The Heavy-duty transmission uses part # 2464835. So they are different. Those are the 2 synchronizer links that I sent you in post # 4.
On p. 21-9, they list a (standard duty) transmission assembly (21-02-1) for the 170 cu in. Underneath that they list a separate transmission assembly part number for the 225 engine, so there must be differences. They wouldn't use a different part number if they didn't have to.
Based on what you have told me, then the second gears for each would be different also - right? Problem now is what actually did they sell to us previously??? And where can I find these parts??? Still searching.I am limited with non-Mopar part numbers. The best I can tell from the link is that BK299WS fits both a NP903 and A903 transmission. Otherwise there would be 2 different part numbers given AFAIK. Maybe the aftermarket listing is wrong? I would much more trust the factory parts catalog for being correct.
I was looking them up in the 1964 Chrysler passenger parts catalog here:
1964 Mopar Parts Book
On p. 21-12, see Synchronizer Unit (21-14-1). The standard duty one for Valiant and Dart is part # 2464838. The Heavy-duty transmission uses part # 2464835. So they are different. Those are the 2 synchronizer links that I sent you in post # 4.
On p. 21-9, they list a (standard duty) transmission assembly (21-02-1) for the 170 cu in. Underneath that they list a separate transmission assembly part number for the 225 engine, so there must be differences. They wouldn't use a different part number if they didn't have to.