[Dmans]

Okay so I know that I have a 15 year old car in the rust belt, but I lift this car up in the air at work all of the time and it is pretty clean underneath, however the other night we were in for a snow storm so I decided to swap my current wheels for my set of snow tires. I start with the rear right of the car and jack it up by the little rubber disc in the back and the car slowly started lowering itself and to my absolute horror, the lift point had pushed up into the car. As far as I could find there was no damage to the floorboard inside the car but it does sit underneath the "C" pillar so its not under the cabin at all. Is there a remedy for this? and could this cause further damage to my vehicle if left untouched?

this is how it looked after

 

[sickboy]

Holy ouch! I’m guessing your wheel arch is probably showing rust too? If I’m not mistaken, there should be a pinch weld jack point you could use (I had them on my 06 charger). as far as a 3 inch hole punched through rusty body, I’d say you are on borrowed time. At least for the body. I believe the exhaust and brake lines are stainless. And as long as the suspension anchor points hold, I’d keep driving it. Just wouldn’t put too much money into it

 

[Dmans]

Holy ouch! I’m guessing your wheel arch is probably showing rust too? If I’m not mistaken, there should be a pinch weld jack point you could use (I had them on my 06 charger). as far as a 3 inch hole punched through rusty body, I’d say you are on borrowed time. At least for the body. I believe the exhaust and brake lines are stainless. And as long as the suspension anchor points hold, I’d keep driving it. Just wouldn’t put too much money into it

I just jacked up the car by the control arm mounts, but the body doesn't have much rust and the wheel arch doesn't have any rust in it which is weird, that's why i think the little rubber piece might have just crumbled in on itself. the only place the car really has rust is around the rear part of the quarter panel on one side and that's about it on the whole car. is that little mounting point replaceable since it appears to be bolted on?

 

[YBNormyl]

I just jacked up the car by the control arm mounts, but the body doesn't have much rust and the wheel arch doesn't have any rust in it which is weird, that's why i think the little rubber piece might have just crumbled in on itself. the only place the car really has rust is around the rear part of the quarter panel on one side and that's about it on the whole car. is that little mounting point replaceable since it appears to be bolted on? View attachment 85318

You can replace that plastic piece. It's just a spacer to help handle the load between it and the rocker lip.

 

[Dmans]

You can replace that plastic piece. It's just a spacer to help handle the load between it and the rocker lip.

the whole thing is plastic? or just the rubber part at the bottom? and do you know the name of that piece?

 

[ImperialCrown]

That piece is called a Torque Box. It is structural. The Shield and Hoisting Pad is attached to it.
I would stop by a collision shop for an opinion and an estimate on repairs.
If the surrounding structure including the rocker panel is in good shape, this may be repairable. See item #5:

 

[Dmans]

That piece is called a Torque Box. It is structural. The Shield and Hoisting Pad is attached to it.
I would stop by a collision shop for an opinion and an estimate on repairs.
If the surrounding structure including the rocker panel is in good shape, this may be repairable. See item #5:

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So it is a welded on piece then? could i go to the junk yard and cut one of a good car to have someone weld it onto mine if its even repairable?

 

[AHBGuru]

If it's just the plastic torque box covers, those are available.

If the torque box itself is damaged, it appears they have a fix for the older LX/LD cars, which had some issues with failed pinch welds. I had it happen to two LD Chargers.

Part number for the revised torque box structure is 4780840AK, and it lists for $363. They're calling it the "Crossmember, Floorpan, Iso Fix".

 

[Dmans]

If it's just the plastic torque box covers, those are available.

If the torque box itself is damaged, it appears they have a fix for the older LX/LD cars, which had some issues with failed pinch welds. I had it happen to two LD Chargers.

Part number for the revised torque box structure is 4780840AK, and it lists for $363. They're calling it the "Crossmember, Floorpan, Iso Fix".

Is there any type of extended warranty claim for it? because I work at a dealership and could try to have one of the service writers make a report or something for it.

 

[ImperialCrown]

Rust-out warranty on a 16 year old car? Nothing I could find.
Does your dealership have a body shop? The first step is an assessment.

 

[Dmans]

Rust-out warranty on a 16 year old car? Nothing I could find.
Does your dealership have a body shop? The first step is an assessment.

Yeah we have a body shop, I know the LX cars have some extended warranty's such as the gas tank warranty and a recall for defective airbags. so I was just wondering if anything existed like that since the part is a revision for a known problem.

 

[AHBGuru]

Is there any type of extended warranty claim for it? because I work at a dealership and could try to have one of the service writers make a report or something for it.

The recall for failed pinch welds was S03, but it was for the LD Charger/300. Chrysler's "solution" was to provide steel wheel chocks.

Now, the new crossmember is from an internal Chrysler satisfaction campaign, but I couldn't find any documentation. There may be a tiny glimmer of hope there, if the torque box(es) did fail. Otherwise, I don't see a way for the claim to work without it getting kicked right back.

Alternatively, here is another option, provided the torque box is ok:
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Lift Pad Pros

www.liftpadpros.com

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Lift Pad Pros

www.liftpadpros.com

 

[ImperialCrown]

Run the VIN through the dealer service VIP Summary report to see if the vehicle has open recalls. S03 does not apply to this vehicle:

The wheel chocks should be in the trunk with the spare & jack.
I found no 'torque box' coverage documentation either.

 

[Dmans]

The recall for failed pinch welds was S03, but it was for the LD Charger/300. Chrysler's "solution" was to provide steel wheel chocks.

Now, the new crossmember is from an internal Chrysler satisfaction campaign, but I couldn't find any documentation. There may be a tiny glimmer of hope there, if the torque box(es) did fail. Otherwise, I don't see a way for the claim to work without it getting kicked right back.

Alternatively, here is another option, provided the torque box is ok:
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Lift Pad Pros

www.liftpadpros.com

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Lift Pad Pros

www.liftpadpros.com

Alot of goof information here thank you! Ill have to see if the torque box itself failed, which im pretty sure it did bc the plastic cover hangs down underneath the car. and I'll have to talk to the service writers and see if there is any type of claim I can make.

 

[Dmans]

Run the VIN through the dealer service VIP Summary report to see if the vehicle has open recalls. S03 does not apply to this vehicle:

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The wheel chocks should be in the trunk with the spare & jack.
I found no 'torque box' coverage documentation either.

I know this TSB I've heard about it before, but I don't understand why the LX cars wouldn't be covered since the LD cars are pretty much exactly the same. I believe the only thing they changed platform wise was the dimensions a little bit

 

[AHBGuru]

I know this TSB I've heard about it before, but I don't understand why the LX cars wouldn't be covered since the LD cars are pretty much exactly the same. I believe the only thing they changed platform wise was the dimensions a little bit

Wheelbase changed, as well as suspension pickup points, etc. I believe LD to LD (2011-2014 to 2015+) are all the same.

A failed pinch weld is nothing new,, but a torque box is generally pretty strong, unless damaged in a crash, or swiss-cheesed with rust. They're typically heavier than sheet metal components. My guess is, that kit repairs a known failure-prone area, but one would think there'd be some readily available info about it, outside of internal.

 

[Dmans]

Wheelbase changed, as well as suspension pickup points, etc. I believe LD to LD (2011-2014 to 2015+) are all the same.

A failed pinch weld is nothing new,, but a torque box is generally pretty strong, unless damaged in a crash, or swiss-cheesed with rust. They're typically heavier than sheet metal components. My guess is, that kit repairs a known failure-prone area, but one would think there'd be some readily available info about it, outside of internal.

Yeah I've been searching around on the internet and haven't been able to to find anything about the installation of it, I'm going to have to talk to the body shop manager at work and ask if he has ever done one of these repairs, however he really doesn't touch cars that are over 5 years old due to the heightened liability that comes with living in the rust belt. and as far as I know the car was in a front end collision at some point but it had Max-care so it was repaired at the dealership. and I'm not sure of the whole condition of the torque box because I haven't gotten underneath the car since that happened. I'm hoping that just the place where the lift point mounts just rusted through. I wonder if it would be worth my time to try and email or call Chrysler themselves for more information about the part/repair because I know all Chryslers from this time are super rust prone and maybe I could try and get some sort of customer satisfaction rebate or something from them.