2008 Avenger security lamp blinks randomly

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AllanC

Discussion Starter · Nov 6, 2011

Vehicle is a 2008 Dodge Avenger with 2.4L 4 cylinder engine, 4 speed automatic transmission, 65000 miles on the odometer. The security lamp in the instrument cluster has begun the habit of randomly illuminating for about 10 seconds and then turning off while the vehicle is being driven. At the same time the green letters and numbers that indicate the PRNDL and odometer reading numbers will go to bright illumination.

The owner's manual indicates that there is a problem with the vehicle electronics and the system needs diagnosis. Before I "bite the bullet" and pay a diagnostic service fee, I am wondering if others have encountered this phenomena? On a wild guess I told the driver to switch and use the other key fob with integrated remote in the slim chance the problem is with the electronics in a particular key. But that is just a guess. Ideas???

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Dave Z

· #2 · Nov 6, 2011

Did you try jiggling the rheostat a little when it happens? Our 300M has been doing this for years at random intervals. It really needs a new headlight switch/rheostat. I figure either there's a little dirt or a little corrosion in there.

Probably should replace it. The one in my wife's Escort started to smoke at 30,000 miles. The 300M's well over 100.

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ImperialCrown

· #3 · Nov 6, 2011

There probably is a fault code stored in the WCM if there is a key transponder fault. It could very well be SKIM key related.
They could also scan the CCN (cluster) and BCM for faults that are turning on the security lamp.

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AllanC

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 20, 2011

We have been using an alternate key fob with built in remote. This unit is newer and has a fresh battery. The security lamp does not blink intermittently. I believe the intermittent blinking was caused by the system sensing a low battery in the remote and flashing the lamp as a signal. I did not have the system scanned for a diagnostic code. It seems silly to pay $75 - $100 in diagnostic fee to just be told a $4 battery in the keyless remote needs to be replaced.

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ImperialCrown

· #5 · Nov 20, 2011

That could very well be. There are fault codes for RKE low battery. I know that a TSB was released in the past also that other transponders on your key ring (eg: Mobil Speedpass) in close proximity to the ign cylinder SKIM antenna could also set false codes and interfere with starting the car.

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DiGiTaL D

· #6 · Oct 17, 2013

My wife's '08 Sebring just started doing this. So far the engine hasn't shut off by itself. Funny thing is we got a brand new OEM key made by the Chrysler dealership about a year and a half ago after wifey flushed her original one down the toilet (whole other story). The remote lock and unlock functions of the key itself seem to work fine. Is this more likely a weak battery in the key or something on board? No trouble codes stored, but I don't have a Star Scan laying around, so...

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ImperialCrown

· #7 · Oct 17, 2013

The problem may not be in the key. I believe that the fob battery just powers the lock/unlock transmitter. The security ID chip transponder for starting may be independent and passive and not require a battery for operation. A loop antenna in the column 'powers up' the chip inductively to read the ID.
Most fault codes for SKIM won't show on the EVIC or an OBDII code reader. Most readers only read PCM faults. You need a more specialized scan tool to read other modules,

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