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The way these cars are engineered is what makes engine/transmission swaps cost-prohibitive. You don't just need the V8 to put in a V6 car, you need the correct transmission, probably the K member, the powertrain electrical and emission systems, the PCM, the correct fuel pumps, the V8 front and rear diffs ...

If you had a parts car of the same year as the receiving car, or interchange years (06-08, 09-10, 11-14, 15-18) that also makes a big difference. That's really the only way to go about that, now.
I was thinking about buying a wrecked or branded R/T taking the interior and anything else needed out of that to put in a pursuit.
 

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I was thinking about buying a wrecked or branded R/T taking the interior and anything else needed out of that to put in a pursuit.
That's the best way. But - keep it within the range of years I listed earlier, and it will be 95% plug n play. The LD's are good cars, and they've made plenty of improvements. Even if you wanted to go nuts and use a 392 or Hellcat donor, the Pursuit is already beefed up to handle it (although the Hellcat will have the fancier brakes, etc that aren't available on the Pursuit).

The only catch will be activating those "retail" features the donor car has, but a good dealership can make quick work of that.
 

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That's the best way. But - keep it within the range of years I listed earlier, and it will be 95% plug n play. The LD's are good cars, and they've made plenty of improvements. Even if you wanted to go nuts and use a 392 or Hellcat donor, the Pursuit is already beefed up to handle it (although the Hellcat will have the fancier brakes, etc that aren't available on the Pursuit).

The only catch will be activating those "retail" features the donor car has, but a good dealership can make quick work of that.
so assuming the price for the two cars put together how much would it cost to have it all done a put together and still have access to thge AWD system. thats the end goal here to have that 5.7 but have the AWD since i live in a snowy state
 

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It would only be feasible if you did the work yourself. That must be understood.

You can easily find "low mileage" (under 50,000 miles) AWD Pursuits for around $15 - 25,000, no assembly required.
The '17+ Pursuits use what is essentially the Hellcat suspension (except springs and shocks, and LCA's on the AWD models), a 7" TV in the middle, and nearly all of those will also have the backup camera and perimeter control.

To spice it up, a nice leather interior on ebay runs anywhere from $1,500 to $2,000. Alternatively, a leather Katzkin interior runs about half of that, plus installation. Stay away from tuners, CAI, cat-backs, and all the other crapola that only adds noise and costs money.
 

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It would only be feasible if you did the work yourself. That must be understood.

You can easily find "low mileage" (under 50,000 miles) AWD Pursuits for around $15 - 25,000, no assembly required.
The '17+ Pursuits use what is essentially the Hellcat suspension (except springs and shocks, and LCA's on the AWD models), a 7" TV in the middle, and nearly all of those will also have the backup camera and perimeter control.

To spice it up, a nice leather interior on ebay runs anywhere from $1,500 to $2,000. Alternatively, a leather Katzkin interior runs about half of that, plus installation. Stay away from tuners, CAI, cat-backs, and all the other crapola that only adds noise and costs money.
I just want to make sure if everything actually fits if i used a wrecked donor to bring a good transmission into a pursuit that the car would understand the 8 speed and the AWD system along with everything else that is with the V8 (MDS, ect) that should require tuning right?
 

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I just want to make sure if everything actually fits if i used a wrecked donor to bring a good transmission into a pursuit that the car would understand the 8 speed and the AWD system along with everything else that is with the V8 (MDS, ect) that should require tuning right?
There is no V8 AWD 8 speed setup, so you aren't going to find that in a wrecked car.
If you want AWD you are gong to have to settle for a V8 5 speed or a V6 8 speed.
Otherwise, it's going to be fabricate (including whatever electronics are needed as well as physical components) or wait for the factory to offer a V8 AWD with the 8 speed.
 
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There is no V8 AWD 8 speed setup, so you aren't going to find that in a wrecked car.
If you want AWD you are gong to have to settle for a V8 5 speed or a V6 8 speed.
Otherwise, it's going to be fabricate (including whatever electronics are needed as well as physical components) or wait for the factory to offer a V8 AWD with the 8 speed.
IF you read the last few messages from this thread you would understand what i meant by this. I plan on getting a pursuit with the 5 speed right. But im trying to figure out how much/ if it would possible if i got a wrecked or branded R/T with the 8 speed and put the transmission in there.
 

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IF you read the last few messages from this thread you would understand what i meant by this. I plan on getting a pursuit with the 5 speed right. But im trying to figure out how much/ if it would possible if i got a wrecked or branded R/T with the 8 speed and put the transmission in there.
I understand what you want to do. There are no factory parts or electronics to do what you want. That's why I mentioned mechanical and electrical fabrication.
 

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I understand what you want to do. There are no factory parts or electronics to do what you want. That's why I mentioned mechanical and electrical fabrication.
Ok, I re-read what you said and now it makes sense, I was assuming the cost would be astronomical anyway but I'm still trying to get to the bottom of how much it would cost and what exactly would need to be done, in this case, fabricated.
 

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Ok, I re-read what you said and now it makes sense, I was assuming the cost would be astronomical anyway but I'm still trying to get to the bottom of how much it would cost and what exactly would need to be done, in this case, fabricated.
Sorry for the double post but doesnt Speed Core make custom transmissions or somthing? they just had a twin-turbo hellcat at SEMA this year.
 

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Current Charger package car; the modified front tension strut, is that the diagonal lower control are that runs from the spindle to just under the radiator? If such is the case, what was changed on that platform to accept the beefed up part? I've done a fair amount of front suspension work on LX cars so, I'm pretty familiar with their quirks.
 

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Current Charger package car; the modified front tension strut, is that the diagonal lower control are that runs from the spindle to just under the radiator? If such is the case, what was changed on that platform to accept the beefed up part? I've done a fair amount of front suspension work on LX cars so, I'm pretty familiar with their quirks.
It goes by a few different names:

- Tension Strut
- Lower Forward Control Arm
- Lateral Arm

Few, if any, suspension parts from the LX carried over to the LD. When they redesigned the platform from the LX to LD in 2011, they changed many of the pickup points, front and rear, along with caster and camber settings, to stabilize the handling. With regard to the tension struts, they also beefed up the bushings and balljoints themselves, which were subsequently revised many times. In mid-2016, along with several other running changes, they started borrowing certain goodies from the Hellcat models for the RWD Pursuits - tension struts being part of that.

It should be noted that the AWD model uses a very tough 1-piece LCA, greatly simplifying maintenance in an area that has caused more than a bit of frustration with many fleets.

Now, if they would make anti-swaybar links that would last more than 10,000 miles ...
 

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While the myth continues that it was a "Mercedes" transmission, the A580 was actually a Chrysler version of the ZF 5HP30 that was used in several foreign models. It was first adapted for use in the earlier LX models, then reenginered and built at Kokomo for the LD/LC and Wranglers.
Chrysler itself used to call it a Mercedes transmission. Bob Sheaves called it "Mercedes' bad copy of the ZF five-speed."

A580, then, is different from the NAG1 / W5A580 / WA580?



 
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