[rockosocko]

Good evening guys n gals. Help is needed kinda quickly, so I'll give a little history about what is going on.


I purchased a 5.2 magnum motor from a pull a part '95 Grand Cherokee for a project and really didn't want to use Aluminum bearings.
So, i found a ebay auction for some MS2221 V high performance bearings from Clevite. I've used Clevites for decades and like the tri-metal coatings.

BUT, when I got the set and eagerly opened the box, started putting them in the block and ended with just one regular width for #5 and the hole doesn't even line up.
#3 has the thrust flange and all fit except the #5 which I think would have to be like the Chevy ones with the thrust flange. THE WIDE ONE back by the
rear lip seal. BUT, I've called several shops and whom I won the auction from (Northern Auto) and they can't seem to come up with anything for me..

I have a stupid-phone so I can't take pics and post (unless I do it the old way)

Does anyone out there know if the bearings should have two thrust flanged bearings (for #3 and #5) or does one just use the thin one for #5?

Thanks E

 

[AC TC]

COUNTER DATA SHOP DATA
BRG O.D. OR
BEARING OR BEARING PART AVAILABLE STD SHAFT VERT OIL MAX HOUSING MAX
8 CYL (cont.)
14 318 CID (5.2L) 16V V8 Magnum 3.910"/99.3mm x 3.313"/84.2mm 14
(cont.) Years: 1992-2003 (cont.)
Maximum Wall Does Not Include Coating Thickness,
Narrowed On One Side For Increased Crank Fillet
Clearance No Dowel Hole In Cap Half
Main Bearing Set VP-2 MS-963V STD
POSITION MATERIAL NUMBER UNDERSIZES DIAMETER CLEARANCE WALL BORE LENGTH

1-2-4 MB-2283V 2.4995/2.5005 0.0006/0.0031 0.0958 2.6925/2.6930 0.8370
3 MB-2036V(F) 2.4995/2.5005 0.0006/0.0031 0.0958 2.6925/2.6930 1.1520
5 MB-2559V 2.4995/2.5005 0.0006/0.0031 0.0958 2.6925/2.6930 1.2870

ok so no 1,2,4 is 0.837 long.
no 3 is 1,152 long and if i remember correctly the thrust bearing .
no 5 is 1,287 long.
The grooved ones goes into the block.

 

[rockosocko]

Ac, is there a link to this info or did you underline all that?
I could use a resource like that if you want to let some go..

I've called a few shops and actually was told by Hughes engines that answers to questions are reserved for CUSTOMERS ONLY! and he basically hung up. (I didn't even get the chance to say "OK, Order me a set")
But then they have a number of topics in their engine "tech articles & instructions..????

So, it looks like the Clevite MS-2221-V is for another version of the 318.

I ended up ordering a set of Federal Mogul 5024m supposedly for Dodge 318 from '74-'03.
This one actually showed a pic of them, showing the one in question, #5 main that is almost double the width and offset oil hole

Can you see it? Second from the top. The 'tang' fits into it's slot and the hole like I said, is offset to mate the block.
This is what threw me from my decades of building Honda and Chevy's. It still doesn't look right. BUT hey..


ANYWHO, I hope this helps out someone else who may be in the same position. (engine build comes to a screaching halt)

I'll try and add where I can.

E

 

[AC TC]

I googled "Clevite MS-2221-V" and ended up in clevites bearing catalog...and then some cut and paste
Noteworthy is that the 2221 didnt show up in the mopar section so i have no clue what there made for.

 

[rockosocko]

The 5024M did the trick, and now there is a discrepancy with torque figures..
I've gotten figures from 85# to 100# of torque??
At 85, the crank spins nice and free (although I used a heavy lube on the bearings, so it takes a little bit more to rotate versus a 20w oil)

Hope this helps someone.
E