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A General Fluid Flush Interval for Early A604's ?

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My '90 Grand Voyager just gave me its periodic transmission refill notice - 3rd gear lockout. Current mileage is around 148K, with 13,000 miles and 34 months since the last flush, with ATF+4.

A flashing light would be so much better than this method of communication, since it always results in an awkward moment on a high-speed roadway. And finding out what the specific condition is requires a visit to a dealership, one of which charged me for over an hour of shop time the last time I was curious enough to investigate.

Having looked through the volumes of communication on these early transmissions, I'm still not sure what the recommended service interval would be for fluid. Haynes says two years or 30K miles. I've seen 15K from more than one source. Driving this van about 5-6 K per year, I know that it doesn't leak, and that currently the fluid looks pretty clear. So, I'm wondering what the recommendation would be, and while we're at it, how do you flash one of these TCM's ?
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· KOG
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About 10-12 years ago I started putting drainplugs (1/8" metal roofing screws) in every 604 pan. Then I change the fluid every year. Takes exactly 1 gallon for refill and less than 15 minutes of time when changing engine oil. I've had to replace two torque converter clutches and no other transmission parts since then.
 

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And, as usual, I agree with Imperial Crown. Regular fluid changes are a good idea, but I don't think you're going to solve your present problem that way, too late.
 

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We've done one 604 to 670 replacement. Easy, but you do have to get a 670 from a minivan, not one of the car versions. And you will want to rebuild it before installing. If it's a 3.3 you cannot use a 670, three speed never made with that bellhousing pattern, only fits 3.0.
 
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