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so my valiant is in a state of moderate disrepair, and has been for a few months, but now i'm about to come out of school and now have the time and money to make this baby roll. but before we get fixing heres a quick recap of how i got here:

alright, about two years ago my mom was looking to buy my first car and stumbled upon a guy who drove this sweet old 1969 plymouth valiant signet 200 (225 slant 6, white, 4 door, almost all original). we bought it from them right away and it served us well through my senior year, i learned how to change oil and do some very basic stuff in it, wooed the ladies with it. it ran super well through the winters and all the way up til about 6 months ago.

the first thing that happened was the little connector to the horn melted a little bit one summer day and made it so that the horn would sound whenever some internal steering wheel business would touch when i turned the wheel. but we just unplugged the horn and chugged on.

later my mom noticed the muffler was hanging a little bit low, and naturally, as a teenager, did nothing about, figuring the problem would solve itself. of course the hanger had broken and eventually the muffler split, so i just reattached what i could and drove it super loud. (i'm not proud of that).

eventually, the alternator went out, and, foolishly, i replaced it myself. i mounted and reattached it right, but the new alternator was missing what i later found out to be the grounding plug, i got the car running again noticed the alternator output was jumping really high on the reader and again, nievely, i just ignored it. and basically, right around when i went more than 30 miles an hour i blew the distributor and again the car was down.

at this point i was just ganna take it to a fix it shop. but my mom (a school teacher) said one of her student's dad was a mechanic and they would hook us up with cheap work. "what could go wrong?" i asked myself. "alot" answered the mechanic.

to shorten what happened with the mechanic, i was there the first day and he installed a grounding plug on the alternator, which was cool. but then nothing happened the second through sixtieth or so days, despite my attempts to help or at least inquire what was going on. it got really tension-us, and then one day the car was back at my house! and it ran! but when i went to but in my spare key, i noticed he had replaced the tumbler because (i later found out), he lost the key, so he just replaced it, i immediately looked under the seat where the key was, angry.

i drove it around again and fried the new distributor he put in there, cause he didn't fix the source of the problem.


so you've read this far, thank you. that brings us up to about a few weeks ago. i replace the old distributor and the voltage regulator, but that doesn't seem to be regulating the alternator output at all.


now for my questions in what i think is descending order of importance:

also, the distributor clamp he used is for the V8 version of the car, so i need to know which clamp would work for this distributor:
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Plymouth/Valiant/A1_Cardone/Distributor/1969/A1303610.html
first and foremost. you tell me which and i'll buy it.

since i replace the old distributor and the voltage regulator,what else needs to be replaced so that i can actually regulate that voltage, or at least not have the output spike when i accelerate.

i saw the guy who creates replica exhausts for the old mopars, does anyone have any opinions about them? personal experience? things i should know about it?

do you have anything i can clarify? i'll post some pictures of it tomorrow, and thanks for any help in advance, also for reading all of this, it was a long post.
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Yeah, but the "real" junkyards, or more politically correct "salvage" yards let you go in and look around, search for all kinds of stuff, see things in person. Most of the places here in Southern California are mostly broken down into brands, so you know where the Japanese Honda, Toyota, Mazda, etc. are located, then the Mopars, Fords, Cadillacs, etc.. Talk about a fun trip if you like your cars, and also lets you compare components, how things are set up, compare one brand to another. Have fun and enjoy.
 

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Man, my Dad started taking me to junk yards with him when I was about 10 years old. I loved it! The smell of the old cars, the grease and oil and just seeing the old cars was a treat for me. Dad had big hands and fingers and if he needed something that was in a tight spot, that's where I came in handy. Junk yards have sure changed a LOT in the past 45 years, but I still love going to the Pull-A-Part. I could spend a whole day in one and be content. Take your digitial camera if you have one and anything you see that you may want to work on, snap a picture and you'll have a reference as to how to install it on your car.
 

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I like being able to find a couple parts on different cars that is the same to compare and get the best of the parts, and identify how something is different between a car or a van/truck, this model, that model, and hey, one advantage is that in pulling a part off, you can learn how it comes off and if it breaks, so what, just find another one. Yards have changed over the decades, used to be a reasure hunt, now it is more organized. I remember a junkyard in eastern Washington that had Cadillacs from the 50s, and of course I wasn't quite into Mopars at the time, but several 331, 354, 392 Hemi engines sitting in big Chryslers and Dodges, wish I would have picked them up now. I am sure there is a lot of stuff that has been crushed that should have been saved over the years.
 

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so far i've been to 4 junk yards, but i haven't been able to find anything close to a slant six. any thing before 1980 i find is usual a junk ford car. anyone know any good yards in denver?
 

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Try craigslist, sometimes there are folks selling slant six parts. It can't be this difficult to find a distributor clamp, can it?
 

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Slant six was the highest and longest production engine in Chrysler's history. It was in trucks, and all Dodge and Plymouth vehicles, Dodge and Plymouth until the K cars, trucks until 1986 in trucks and vans, and used in boats, forklifts, generator stations, all over the world.

Does anyone have a slant six distributor adjustment bracket they can sell to Ellobo??????
 

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I can understand his frustration. When Cash For Clunkers came about, and the scrap metal prices went up, every yard near me crushed everything older than 2000 and cleaned out their lots. Some even closed afterward. I can't find any Chrysler products here older than about 2000.
 

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yeah, so i've checked out 5 junk yards or so and i'm really just having trouble finding anything older than 1990 too. there's a very old post on craigslist where a guy was parting out most of a slant six, but i haven't heard back from him.

so basically mega shark sits and waits, covered in my back yard. waiting for a miracle.

also junk yards are a whole lot of fun. me and my sister bonded on that alot, which was super fun. thanks for the recommendation.
 

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You could always buy a new slant six distributor. More money, but it works.
 

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Around here, they stopped carrying classics over a decade ago... oh, right, 2000. Maybe two decades ago. They said they don't get much call for cars over ten years old, and the parts aren't worth as much, and they tend to be degraded if they're in the yard too long anyway. Generally I find that junkyarddog.com is helpful as are dedicated vintage car wreckers. I gave up on visiting local junkyards in person, there aren't enough of them, and they're space limited. Many went out of the business when real estate prices shot up, during the bubble. Cashed out for a few million ... instead of working out of a battered trailer, dealing with cheapskates and thieves all day (and often not being above some thieving themselves, there are some disreputable yards around that promise a price on the phone, then muscle the car for nothing out of the unsuspecting... according to second hand reports).

http://www.allpar.com/i/mopar-parts.html has a few junkyard resources.

Generally I've had good times in the 1980s at junkyards but not since.
 

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Get yourself an electronic Distributor, any old mopar one to fit the slant. Make sure it is complete.
I reckon your "Mechanic" friend is like the typical mechanic and hasnt got a clue about Mopars especially the Electronic ignition.
I reckon he saw the electronic stuff and just binned your electronic dissy, and located a cheap points one (took him a week or so)
Just to get you back on the road and out of his hair.
Get the electronic slant 6 dissy, check the wiring, there are diagrams on the net, make sure that rusty old orange box is earthed proberly to the body. ie clean off the rust where it mounts and it should be fine. Set the air gap on the dissy, and if it doesnt run it is the orange box. get a black one from the junkers.
Or Get back to the mechanic and ask for your old distributor back. Which I suspect, was an electronic one anyway.
 

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Also get in touch with a local who might know the best yards. There are vintage yards on that page at allpar which are worth contacting separately, they're likely NOT on junkyard dog.

+1 to dartndodge's post. You'll need a cheap can of dielectric grease for all those connections.
 

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http://www.streetperformance.com/part/mr-gasket/distributor-hold-down-clamp/394405-2503.html

so i took a little break on the car just cause i got frustrated and started working on my mopeds til they went to stuff (spent $60 on a piece of trash carb) and now i'm back on the valiant.

i'm ganna buy that clamp in that link up there to try it out, as finding an original one is way to hard. any junkyard i contacted online just spammed me, and this is the closest i can find to something that might work so i'm just ganna go for it,
 

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I don't think that will fit or work on the slant-6 distributor.
 

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This is getting desperate, might have to break the rules....OK.

Check out===

http://www.wildcatmopars.com/

They collect and wreck heaps of old Mopars, surely they got what ya want.

http://www.texasacres.com/

Texas acres were a huge old Mopar wreckers, but now retired...but may still have some scraps left, doesnt hurt to ask, just dont be a dick....these guys have been doing this stuff for 50 years or more.

http://www.bradsnosparts.com/

Brads nos have heaps of old stock parts, may have a s/h piece your after.

There are dozens more, usually advertised in the 2 main Mopar Magazines, buy them and have a look.

I could probably get one for you, But Im in Australia, and the cost to post etc etc.

You are in the land of Mopar....most old dudes should have them just sitting around in their backyards.

I watch those "Pickers" shows...you yanks are Crazy, with what you keep...millions of $$ just left in barns or outside to rust away.

Learn this young fella....When you mess with old cars YOU GOT TO NETWORK AND GET IN THE LOOP or you never get anywhere!!!!!
Most youngins are into it thru their dads, and all their knowledge.

You need to network MOPAR dudes...keep away from Chevy or Ford generic mechanics etc...FIND MOPAR GUYS AND ASK Qs THEN LISTEN!!!
Go to a local cruise or hangout, and look for the guys with Mopars, restos or modified, it dont matter, then be honest with them and blend......thats how we all learn.

Nowdays is VERY hard to start out an old Mopar car fan from nothing, you must network. (real people too not only net)

And Dont be a **** [edited] about it, be the student and let them teach you....most Mopar guys are good like that.

Go forth young man!>>>>>>>>>>
 
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