Wow, no DSRT for a while. What happened I wonder?
Orbit Orange said:Somebody decode these hieroglyphics for me. Where would the Barracuda fit in? Thanks.
Yikes, either 2016 for the barracuda, or the SRT Dart. Or there's no SRT Dart, or no SRT Cuda. Take your pick. Both of those stink!Moparian said:could be 2016 under SRT
I absolutely agree, I don't want to see them half-assed. I am just commenting that it is pretty lousy as a huge Chrysler fan & "Cheerleader" to see that there will be either no Cuda or no Dart SRT (likely the Cuda won't exist), and it will take at least 2 years to see a Dart SRT.Stratuscaster said:Note that if 2016 refers to model year, that could debut in Q1 of 2015 - a mere 2 years away.
The bigger question is "do you want them to do it half-assed just to satisfy your impatience, only to have you complain when it's not up to snuff? Or do you let them take their time, do it right, and blow you (and the competition) away with the final result?"
The timing would appear to coincide with an expected Dart mid-cycle-refresh, and likely with production of the 9-speed in full swing. (Not that they are using the 9-speed in the SRT...or are they?)
Don't forget about the 300/Charger/Challenger refresh. Maybe they can break 300K out of Brampton.1969 300 said:Already the media trolls are slamming the plan....
"None of those brand pipelines is likely to be enough to allow Chrysler to hold on this year to the market share it gained over the last two years. And so as usual, Chrysler’s future is iffy again."
I guess a new 200 that could potentially be Chrysler's passenger car volume leader and the new Cherokee that could potentially equal the Grand Cherokee in sales is not enough this year :angry2:
No actually if you read better the different color doesn't refer to the architecture (I think the very large majority of the future vehicles you see in the chart will be based on a Fiat architecture), it actually refers to the production site. White is in Europe, dark is in NAFTA.Kyle said:Wow the change in FIAT-architecture vehicles in Chrysler is dramatic. They're almost all gone! Weren't some just months from being revealed? That's quite a shift in strategy.
Actually it is a reflection of the fact that Fiat needs to expand its lineup in NA and so does Alfa Romeo (well AR has to debut yet in NA). Fiats and Alfas are produced in Europe because that's where they sell the most.MoparNorm said:*By pushback, the Plan still shows a boatload (or container ship) full of imported products for 2015 and 2016, stacked up and ready to come.
That likely is more a reflection of problems in Europe than demand in the US.
And thus my point, sales in Europe are still plunging downward and sales of Fiats in the US, although weak, could end up supporting the factories and workers in Italy.jazz77 said:Actually it is a reflection of the fact that Fiat needs to expand its lineup in NA and so does Alfa Romeo (well AR has to debut yet in NA). Fiats and Alfas are produced in Europe because that's where they sell the most.
According to the master body code list in 'chrysler chat' from oh2o, UL was old code for Liberkee, UT was Avenger replacement. Most U codes were D-USW platform siblings. P codes are C-USW's. B code--no idea. Possibly SUSW/SCSS things, such as next gen MiTo, and 500L, 500X, Jeep Bseg.The Mad Duck said:Other Than the New T-Town Cherokee V-1 Day is the Middle of May I Have NO Clue on the New 5-Year Plan.
And the Alfa Alphabet Soup is "UL, UT, BA, & PA" Some One Else Can Decode It I CAN'T.
As Far As Forbes Goes in the Famous Words of Richard Pryor "Suck What"!
Interesting.The Mad Duck said:And the Alfa Alphabet Soup is "UL, UT, BA, & PA" Some One Else Can Decode It I CAN'T.
My point is that if you make money with this "only one left available" strategy then it is actually a brilliant strategy. He does it for the workers in Italy? Whichever is the reason if you end up making money you are doing it primarily for the company.MoparNorm said:And thus my point, sales in Europe are still plunging downward and sales of Fiats in the US, although weak, could end up supporting the factories and workers in Italy.
It not that it's a brilliant strategy, it's simply the best one left available.
And many models do not automatically translate into " all those cars". They may be less than 10,000 units per year, each, unless they start selling.
It took the 500 nearly two years to reach and stay above 3,000 units per month.
Regardless, we won't know for sure, until several more years.