[MoparNorm]

This differs slightly from the DOJ? Info, where the bell housing can accept a 1.8 diesel, or maybe the list had a typo?
Does anyone know if the Fiat bolt patterns are universal and interchangeable?

 

[waspie]

bah, another missed opportunity for US. booo.

 

[guyverfanboy]

I hope the 2.0 diesel comes to the US soon!

 

[Bran]

This differs slightly from the DOJ? Info, where the bell housing can accept a 1.8 diesel, or maybe the list had a typo?

No, 1.8 is a gas engine.

So, Europe gets 2.0 diesel, 1.4 gas and (maybe) 1.8 gas. China gets only 1.4 gas.

 

[kakoktim]

EU will get 2.0 diesel either 140hp or 170hp and V6.
No 1.4, 1.8 or 2.4 petrols for EU countries at least from the beginning.

No, 1.8 is a gas engine.

So, Europe gets 2.0 diesel, 1.4 gas and (maybe) 1.8 gas. China gets only 1.4 gas.

 

[ChryslerFiatfan]

Now that the Europeans have decided to join the civilized world, and finally enter the world of toxic emission controls, it makes the smog controlled diesels cheaper to be upgraded to meet US T2B5 standards, by spreading the cost over larger volumes of engines.

Maybe in a decade or so, visitors to Europe won't see so many architectural monuments closed, as they have to scrape off the soot from millions of pollution spewing diesel cars.

I'm sure that we will see more diesels appear in NAFTA cars, as these improved and genuinely cleaner Euro diesels proliferate.

 

[jazz77]

Now that the Europeans have decided to join the civilized world, and enter the world of toxic emission controls, it makes the smog controlled dieselsl cheaper to be upgraded to meet US T2B5 standards,by spreading the cost over larger volumes.

Maybe in a decade or so, visitors to Europe won't see so manyarchitectural monuments closed as they scrape off the soot from millions of pollution spewing diesel cars.

I'm sure that we will see more diesels appear in NAFTA cars as this occurs.

Ehm actually in Europe diesels are cleaner than gas engines.

 

[Bran]

^ No. Euro 3 gas engine is cleaner than a Euro 5 diesel engine.

 

[ChryslerFiatfan]

Ehm actually in Europe diesels are cleaner than gas engines.

That is merely because the toxic emissions regulations are so primitive for both Euro ICE and Euro diesels. Plus, Only recently has PM10 and PM 2.5 become of concern to health authorities. VOCS are more of a problem for ICEs, as ICE fuels are more volatile than diesel fuels when you don't have evaporative controls.

 

[MoparNorm]

No, 1.8 is a gas engine.

So, Europe gets 2.0 diesel, 1.4 gas and (maybe) 1.8 gas. China gets only 1.4 gas.

Thanks, that is what I thought. The engines listed are all compatible with the 9 speed bell, 1.4, 1.8 2.0 .

 

[jazz77]

^ No. Euro 3 gas engine is cleaner than a Euro 5 diesel engine.

That is merely because the toxic emissions regulations are so primitive for both Euro ICE and Euro diesels. Plus, Only recently has PM10 and PM 2.5 become of concern to health authorities. VOCS are more of a problem for ICEs, as ICE fuels are more volatile than diesel fuels when you don't have evaporative controls.

I stick to official figures, using comparable engines in terms of power diesels are at least on par with gas engines and often cleaner.

Check for instance: http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/ford/focus/hatchback/variants#variants.

 

[Glacial]

Oh well. Good thing the Cherokee is so unbelievably, irredeemably ugly, or I might be disappointed.

 

[RVC]

Thanks, that is what I thought. The engines listed are all compatible with the 9 speed bell, 1.4, 1.8 2.0 .

Norm, are you sure you didn't see the 1.6 diesel for Europe as well? Would seem like a natural fit for the 2wd, especially considering the competition offers something similar too.

 

[MoparNorm]

Norm, are you sure you didn't see the 1.6 diesel for Europe as well? Would seem like a natural fit for the 2wd, especially considering the competition offers something similar too.

The list I have is, 1.4 gas, 1.8 gas, 2.0 diesel. It's over a year old, but the 1.6 was not listed. However if it shares the bolt pattern, it could be used.

 

[Gord Tulk]

Now that the Europeans have decided to join the civilized world, and finally enter the world of toxic emission controls, it makes the smog controlled diesels cheaper to be upgraded to meet US T2B5 standards, by spreading the cost over larger volumes of engines.

Maybe in a decade or so, visitors to Europe won't see so many architectural monuments closed, as they have to scrape off the soot from millions of pollution spewing diesel cars.

I'm sure that we will see more diesels appear in NAFTA cars, as these improved and genuinely cleaner Euro diesels proliferate.

Actually car emissions had very little to do with the soot and other atmospheric damage that needs/is being removed form buildings in Europe. The vast, vast majority of it was caused by soot deposition the burning of coal for heat electricity and industrial activity prior to the 1970s and 80s.

Similar damage can be seen on older buildings in cities like new york, montreal and toronto. And it should be noted, many types of building materials used back in the day stain from non-man generated sources simply because of their porous nature.

 

[RVC]

The list I have is, 1.4 gas, 1.8 gas, 2.0 diesel. It's over a year old, but the 1.6 was not listed. However if it shares the bolt pattern, it could be used.

Thanks