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HD get 3-link front suspension...helps obtain a 10K GVWR
It's a darn shame that management thinks Jeep suspensions are too antiquated for their CUV Jeeps, but somehow they are the state of art for Dodge Rams...drew54 said:![]()
I want to know more about this.
It probably has a lot to do with the target buyer for each type of vehicle, unfortunately. People who buy a Dodge Ram HD are most likely expecting a "truck-like" ride, and therefore management probably thinks they can use the "truck-like" suspension. CUV Jeep(R) buyers want a Jeep(R) that doesn't ride like a Jeep.MoparNorm said:It's a darn shame that management thinks Jeep suspensions are too antiquated for their CUV Jeeps, but somehow they are the state of art for Dodge Rams...
SouthPawXJ said:It probably has a lot to do with the target buyer for each type of vehicle, unfortunately. People who buy a Dodge Ram HD are most likely expecting a "truck-like" ride, and therefore management probably thinks they can use the "truck-like" suspension. CUV Jeep(R) buyers want a Jeep(R) that doesn't ride like a Jeep.
Offered just as a possible reason as to why. If you know me, you know how I feel about that reasoning. (I'm well aware of the opinions of Boberg, Sheaves, and Layton, as well as the ZJ and WJ reviews.)
As discussed previously, this suspension is light years ahead of the nearly 50 year old GM setup. Bringing them up in conversation together is like comparing a Model T vs a 65 Mustang.willy said:GM light trucks tried coil suspension back in the 60's and changed back to leaf springs in a hurry. Hopefully this multi-link coil suspension will be much better than that.
Baby steps...I'm sure Chrysler and AAM are hard at work on an 11.5" IRS setupMoparNorm said:It's a darn shame that management thinks Jeep suspensions are too antiquated for their CUV Jeeps, but somehow they are the state of art for Dodge Rams...
It's the same suspension type as found on TJ, JK and ZJ, WJ. It allows maximum articulation, when combined with sway bar disconnects.burt said:This system is not like Chevies ( chevies was a trailing link system) this is a 5 link, if I'm not mistaken.
Very similar to a race car set up. Race cars have adjustments on several areas not available on this system.
It will still allow some articulation, but very little side to side movement.
If I recall, it also places more pressure to the ground under acceleration. but without the added friction to major changes in the pinion angle.
Anybody correct me if I missed anything....
Yep, GMC and Chevy use them on their IFS trucks...and shops make a good profit, swapping them out.AutoTechnician said:Torsion-bars are just a spring technology. They are not a "suspension". Typically you only see torsion-bars on independent suspensions. Besides, I've seen plenty of GM, Fords and various other makes with torsion-bar springs that have worn out or even just snapped.
Yep, I've never had to replace a coil spring but I have replaced worn out rear leaf springs and have replaced 3 (yes 3) snapped torsion bars. Every one of them snapped while the car was sitting.Dr. Z said:Someone asked about torsion bars. The answers are "torsion bars snap" (not that often admittedly) and they do not allow as much tuning and adjustment. "What burt said."