AN: Park assist, low-gear 4x4 for 2014 Cherokee

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Allpar News System

Discussion Starter · Jan 28, 2013

According to observations of its interior, the 2014 Jeep Cherokee (Jeep Liberty replacement) will have both a parking assistance system and a two-speed 4x4 system, put into low gear using a traditional lever. This would be the first parking assistance system ever used in a Chrysler Group vehicle. The 2014 Cherokee will be equipped with the new 3.2-liter V6, a high-efficiency version of the familiar Pentastar 3.6 engine, paired with a ZF nine-speed automatic transmission made either by ZF itself or by Chrysler. Export “Liberkees” will get the same 2-liter, four-cylinder diesel used in international markets now, possibly due to a long-term supply contract. For more information, discussion of the four wheel drive system, and up to date renderings, see our 2014 Jeep Cherokee page or this forums discussion.

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M.O.D.

· #2 · Jan 28, 2013

Allpar News System said:
According to observations of its interior, the 2014 Jeep Cherokee (Jeep Liberty replacement) will have both a parking assistance system and a two-speed 4x4 system, put into low gear using a traditional lever. This would be the first parking assistance system ever used in a Chrysler Group vehicle. The 2014 Cherokee will be equipped with the new 3.2-liter V6, a high-efficiency version of the familiar Pentastar 3.6 engine, paired with a ZF nine-speed automatic transmission made either by ZF itself or by Chrysler. Export “Liberkees” will get the same 2-liter, four-cylinder diesel used in international markets now, possibly due to a long-term supply contract. For more information, discussion of the four wheel drive system, and up to date renderings, see our 2014 Jeep Cherokee page or this forums discussion.

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Maybe need to clarify the diesel engine point. Not sure what 2.0 for international markets the article refers to.
In Europe Cherokee (Liberty) uses the VM 2.8 L4 and the Compass uses a 2.2 L4 which I believe is Mercedes-sourced.
The only 2.0 diesel currently used by Chrysler in North America is the Fiat 1.9 JTD fitted onto the Fiat Freemont (the rebadged Dodge Journey for export to Europe).

My guess is that the latter is the engine that we'll see on the '14 Cherokee (or at least its newer iteration)

Mike V.

· #3 · Jan 28, 2013

This vehicles is becoming more and more intriguing by the minute.

Mike

UN4GTBL

· #4 · Jan 28, 2013

...A two-speed 4x4 system, put into low gear using a traditional lever...

Must have missed this part of the discussion!

Mike V.

· #5 · Jan 28, 2013

UN4GTBL said:
Must have missed this part of the discussion!

It was alluded too in another thread regarding the Cherokee. This is getting really interesting indeed.

Mike

MoparNorm

· #6 · Jan 28, 2013

The Liberkee(r) will receive the same 2.0 I-4 turbo diesel (EBT) that will be shared with the D Segment Gulia (sp?).

Per the information I have seen, likely export only.

MoparNorm

· #7 · Jan 28, 2013

Not 100% accurate, but from wiki;
(Keep in mind the reference to "GM" is actually V M Motori, now owned jointly and operated by Fiat.)

A new 2 litre (1,956 cc, 83 mm bore, 90.4 mm stroke) Multijet diesel was introduced in third generation Lancia Delta in summer 2008. At its first version this engine produces 165 PS (121 kW; 163 bhp). For 2009 the engine was fitted to Alfa Romeo 159 as 170 PS (125 kW; 168 hp) variant. Fiat Sedici, Suzuki SX4 and the new Fiat Doblò generation use a 135 PS (99 kW; 133 hp) variant of this engine.
GM Powertrain also developed [9]a 165 PS (121 kW; 163 bhp) version for Astra and Insignia. In 2011 GM Powertrain Europe developed a new derivative - the twin-turbocharger BiTurbo version, with 195 PS (143 kW; 192 bhp), which is used in the Insignia and starting with 2013 in the Astra J. Internally the new engine is referred to as GM Family B engine. The same engine was also available in the 2011 Saab 9-5 with 160 PS and 190 PS twin-turbo, and in 2012 Chevrolet Malibu with single turbine - 160 PS.

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M.O.D.

· #8 · Jan 28, 2013

MoparNorm said:
Not 100% accurate, but from wiki;
(Keep in mind the reference to "GM" is actually V M Motori, now owned jointly and operated by Fiat.)

A new 2 litre (1,956 cc, 83 mm bore, 90.4 mm stroke) Multijet diesel was introduced in third generation Lancia Delta in summer 2008. At its first version this engine produces 165 PS (121 kW; 163 bhp). For 2009 the engine was fitted to Alfa Romeo 159 as 170 PS (125 kW; 168 hp) variant. Fiat Sedici, Suzuki SX4 and the new Fiat Doblò generation use a 135 PS (99 kW; 133 hp) variant of this engine.
GM Powertrain also developed [9]a 165 PS (121 kW; 163 bhp) version for Astra and Insignia. In 2011 GM Powertrain Europe developed a new derivative - the twin-turbocharger BiTurbo version, with 195 PS (143 kW; 192 bhp), which is used in the Insignia and starting with 2013 in the Astra J. Internally the new engine is referred to as GM Family B engine. The same engine was also available in the 2011 Saab 9-5 with 160 PS and 190 PS twin-turbo, and in 2012 Chevrolet Malibu with single turbine - 160 PS.

Sorry Norm, for once I have the honour to correct you. In this case GM actually stands for GM itself, meaning OPEL.
This is a legacy of the GM-Fiat cooperation when the two companies developed jointly their 1.3 and 1.9 diesel engines, mainly with Fiat leadership. GM even set up a diesel engine R&D centre in Turin, which still exists and is today GM's european centre of excellence, employing many former Fiat people.
This means that european GM diesels are all originating from joint Fiat design (though, by now, they have much diverged).

VM motori only makes the known 3.0 V6 and the 2.8 L4 for Fiat/Chrysler. I am not sure what other engines VM makes for GM or others, but I don't think they make a 2.0 litre.

MoparNorm

· #9 · Jan 28, 2013

M.O.D. said:
Sorry Norm, for once I have the honour to correct you. In this case GM actually stands for GM itself, meaning OPEL.
This is a legacy of the GM-Fiat cooperation when the two companies developed jointly their 1.3 and 1.9 diesel engines, mainly with Fiat leadership. GM even set up a diesel engine R&D centre in Turin, which still exists and is today GM's european centre of excellence, employing many former Fiat people.
This means that european GM diesels are all originating from joint Fiat design (though, by now, they have much diverged).

VM motori only makes the known 3.0 V6 and the 2.8 L4 for Fiat/Chrysler. I am not sure what other engines VM makes for GM or others, but I don't think they make a 2.0 litre.

Thanks for the clarification, I did note it was from wiki...

VM does indeed make a 2.0 (1.99) for GM. It's not clear whether this is the same engine or not. However product plans do show it in both Giulietta and Guilia.

http://www.vmmotori.it/uploads/doc/1695.pdf

RVC

· #10 · Jan 28, 2013

Acutally it's even more interesting. The twin turbo version is a fiat design, also produced in Germany under license for GM's Opel products. It was part of the severance deal between FIAT and GM that Opel would continue to use that engine. The Lancia Delta uses that same engine IIRC.
It's an excellent power plant, but unfortunately the use is currenlty limited by that agreement.

MoparNorm

· #11 · Jan 28, 2013

So, it is the same engine, or at least cousins.

CherokeeVision

· #12 · Jan 28, 2013

Let's see.
XJ - short overhangs
XJ - square design so easy to know where the corners are
XJ - lots of glass for great visibility

KL - short overhangs but that's all

No wonder park assist is needed.

I love how it takes high technology to bring back things that used to be there but have now been designed out.

I wonder if I can keep my XJ running until I'm too old to drive?

AutoTechnician

· #13 · Jan 28, 2013

A lot of that stuff was designed out because it was difficult to meet roof-crush standards and side-impact standards with thin pillars and low-belt lines. Perhaps with advances in steels, light-weight vehicle structures and improved air-bag systems we will eventually see thin pillars and lots of glass come back.

However, I've noticed lately that belt-lines seem to be dropping - somewhat, so perhaps we're already on the way back. I recall that the new 300 has a slightly lower belt line than the original.

Moparian

· #14 · Jan 28, 2013

AutoTechnician said:
A lot of that stuff was designed out because it was difficult to meet roof-crush standards and side-impact standards with thin pillars and low-belt lines. Perhaps with advances in steels, light-weight vehicle structures and improved air-bag systems we will eventually see thin pillars and lots of glass come back.

However, I've noticed lately that belt-lines seem to be dropping - somewhat, so perhaps we're already on the way back. I recall that the new 300 has a slightly lower belt line than the original.

No its just a conspiracy against boxy vehicles :yawn:

RVC

· #15 · Jan 28, 2013

Btw, "a two-speed 4x4 system, put into low gear using a traditional lever"?
What's that all about? I haven't seen anything resembling a lever, just a selector knob...

Dave Z

· #16 · Jan 28, 2013

The beltline on the original LX was hiked up to give the impression of safety, according to press releases. Most likely more than was needed. Mercedes at the time felt that Americans wanted to drive in tanks and gave the LX a heavy look and feel, accordingly.

IMHO, Americans who wanted to drive in tanks, bought SUVs.

tomaz

· #17 · Jan 28, 2013

Nice Roof.. Panorama ?? and I see they are going to show off the New Cherokee Sporting the Grand Cherokee's Debut Color.

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FreeLantz

· #18 · Jan 28, 2013

CherokeeVision said:
Let's see.
XJ - short overhangs
XJ - square design so easy to know where the corners are
XJ - lots of glass for great visibility

KL - short overhangs but that's all

No wonder park assist is needed.

I love how it takes high technology to bring back things that used to be there but have now been designed out.

I wonder if I can keep my XJ running until I'm too old to drive?

Does any passenger car or SUV really need Park Assist? I think not. But it's a feature they can brag about in advertising. Hey, Mercedes has this and now so do we! I'm just not sure why it is going into the Cherokee first and not a larger SUV or one of the big sedans.

oh2o

· #19 · Jan 29, 2013

69DartGTS said:
Nice Roof.. Panorama ??

"Sky Slider" roof, as on the Liberty. Google "Sky Slider roof" for images.

tomaz

· #20 · Jan 29, 2013

Oh ok. just thought i was still a Cover up by the Camo.

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