It's worth noting that the GT500 has 600RWHP and weighs 3900lbs. and it manages 11.60s @ 126-128. At that curb weight ( I understand that is just an estimate for argues sake), and HP, 11.20s-11.40s is a bit optimistic. Traction becomes the enemy. Suspension, chassis becomes a riddle. I am hopeful that SRT shows off a bit with this Hellcat. They just need to cut the performance gap in half or more, to be successful.jam1 said:*IF* 600 horsepower at rear-wheels, and estimated 4300lb.-vehicle, estimated 1/4-mile would be around 11.20's to 11.40's at around 120m.p.h. !! Good grief! That's impressive if it comes true! Time to start selling everything and saving money!
Halo car? Challenger isn't halo enough? Viper isn't halo enough? SRT(et al) isn't halo enough?GuidoFL said:With the Mustang having a 500+ lb. advantage the Hellcat, a new engine that puts down 600 rwhp is needed badly. Other wise prepare to be smoked by lighter Ford and GM offerings. Dodge badly needs a halo vehicle to show in the car mags. Speaking of which for the last couple of years they have had show downs between the GM & Ford offering ONLY. Hell even the Caddy SUV with the supercharged engine will smoke a SRT Dodge ...... how sad is that ??
Make Motor Trend , Car & Driver, Road & Track test drivers dirty their shorts
The "Barracuda" may just be a program name, so save yourself the angst and get the Challenger, it's a great car, it's not that big and not that heavy and has way more power than you can use on the street.sickboy said:i was really hoping to buy the new barracuda. i fully believe that the challenger is just too big. i would love it as a cruiser, but the only way to reduce it's mass is to get rid of most of its comfort (like sound deadening). what it really needed was to be 8/10ths size. i feel that i would not pay 60 or 70 thousand dollars for an uncomfortable, but fast car. i will have to wait for the barracuda, and see if it suits me well. if not, i will probably choose the 392 challenger.
And the SRT Challenger weights ............... ?? It's HP to pounds as we all know and torque for street driving.Mike V. said:It's too bad the GT500 doesn't really have a 500lb weight advantage like many people on the I telnet would love for you to believe. Most GT500s weigh in between 3800 and 3950.
Mike
fair enough, but i still have to sell this to the wife. i was looking towards a used viper, but don't quite need something "hairy". misplace the throttle of the gt 500 at any time and they'll be cleaning me out with a hose. maybe 470 is enough for the street. perhaps if i had the millions to be buying a track only car, 700hp might be a good idea. i still have a young kid.GuidoFL said:Just picked these numbers off of the Motor Authority web site for MY 2013 models:
Mustang GT 500: 650 hp / 600 ft lbs............ $54,200., loaded
Camaro ZL1: 580 hp / 556 ft lb. .................... $54,995., loaded
As we know the
Challenger SRT.......... 470 hp...... appox. $50,000 and up.
Halo vehicle .......... Viper ? If you see one with a Dodge name plate you know it's post 2013. Challenger SRT looks great but quoting Motor Tread " The Dodge is down on hp ...the SRT Challenger is not competive".
Having said that look at my avatar to see what I'm driving and it's not a PU, SUV, or mini van. We out class them .... BUT
And the SRT Challenger weights ............... ?? It's HP to pounds as we all know and torque for street driving.
As listed here many times, the SRT Challenger weights between 4000 and 4150 depending in options.GuidoFL said:And the SRT Challenger weights ............... ?? It's HP to pounds as we all know and torque for street driving.