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That would be a "Swinger" ;)
 

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Thats actually pretty good, I'm liking it personally. I like coupés, when the proportions are correct and the weight is similar and handling is better, but comfort is similar.
 

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They are at least two years too late. Chevy has already made two concepts and even said they are looking for a $20,000 price range. The retro styled red car is the Code 130R the Cruze based silver is Tru 140S.

Subaru is coming out with a RWD coupe this year... better get on it Dodge :flashred:
 

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They are at least two years too late. Chevy has already made two concepts and even said they are looking for a $20,000 price range. The retro styled red car is the Code 130R the Cruze based silver is Tru 140S.

Subaru is coming out with a RWD coupe this year... better get on it Dodge :flashred:
That vehicle has been in development since about 08 or 09. Dodge probably doesn't have anything like that Subaru/Toyota/Scion coming out as far as we know. But maybe an SRT4 Dart coupe renamed the Demon could do the same thing ;)
 

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The Subaru is a totally new design, if Dodge made a cheap coupe it would be based off the Dart, I would think that would cut some time off. I would be happy maybe 2 full size doors in front and 1/2 size doors in the back, I would be happy with that.
 

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The Subaru is a totally new design, if Dodge made a cheap coupe it would be based off the Dart, I would think that would cut some time off. I would be happy maybe 2 full size doors in front and 1/2 size doors in the back, I would be happy with that.
But then everyone would call it an RX-8 wannabe. The 1/2 rear doors are a great idea in my opinion, but still.
 

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They are at least two years too late. Chevy has already made two concepts and even said they are looking for a $20,000 price range. The retro styled red car is the Code 130R the Cruze based silver is Tru 140S.
Too late for what? Chevy didn't bother to bring a 2-door Cruze to the showrooms here - must be a reason. Those concepts are just that - I don't see production intent as they sit, but I do see potential for the next re-design of the Cruze. The 140S will have a better chance once people forget that it looks like a Mitsubishi Eclipse. ;) And I won't be surprised if the red one grows a set of rear doors.

Subaru's new BRZ/Scion's new FR-S are niche players at best. Not saying they won't be good cars, but saying that Dodge needs to hurry and up follow another automaker into a niche just because doesn't make much sense to me. Now, if they can do so profitably where the bits and pieces are shared with other models, great. I'm all for gravy sales in that regard. Then again, niche and low-volume might be better served by an Alfa Romeo model.
 

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The old Challenger was not a first, the old Barracuda was ;)
 

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Right. The old Challenger was practically the last in the race. New Challenger, that's a "maybe" since Mustang was already there and Camaro was already announced. Dart is really just another entry into a crowded segment, it's a good one but not really a "first" as far as I can tell. Viper, minivan I'll grant you; Journey I won't.

Other "firsts" I'd credit: Valiant (first major American compact designed to be one -- though really AMC's deserve that credit), Barracuda, Airflow, 1924 Chrysler...
 

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Dave, you missed the period after Dart and before minivan in the last post ;)

Dodge comes up with great cars, but occasionally take too long to get them out there IMO.
 

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Too late for what? Chevy didn't bother to bring a 2-door Cruze to the showrooms here - must be a reason. Those concepts are just that - I don't see production intent as they sit, but I do see potential for the next re-design of the Cruze. The 140S will have a better chance once people forget that it looks like a Mitsubishi Eclipse. ;) And I won't be surprised if the red one grows a set of rear doors.

Subaru's new BRZ/Scion's new FR-S are niche players at best. Not saying they won't be good cars, but saying that Dodge needs to hurry and up follow another automaker into a niche just because doesn't make much sense to me. Now, if they can do so profitably where the bits and pieces are shared with other models, great. I'm all for gravy sales in that regard. Then again, niche and low-volume might be better served by an Alfa Romeo model.
Though I understand that BRZ pre-orders are said to be 4x their best projections.

Hyundai just announced an Elantra coupe.

There is a market here, just as there was always a market for a Mopar compact. It was just ignored.

After all, you can't sell to a car that doesn't exist.
 

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Automotive News said:
Subaru's BRZ sport coupe goes on sale April 20, but only about 500 units will be available each month for the U.S. market.

That means that some of Subaru's 620 U.S. dealers won't have a BRZ at launch and most will get only one car a month.

It is unlikely the United States will receive more than about 6,000 of the rear-wheel-drive coupes a year even in a full-year of production, said Michael McHale, Subaru of America's director of corporate communications.

McHale said Subaru of America asked for only 6,000 annually. He said the U.S. sales arm made a conservative request because little was known about the car during most of its joint development with Toyota.

Earlier this year, Scion boss Jack Hollis said his brand expects to sell 10,000 to 15,000 units of the FR-S in 2012.

Full article: http://www.autonews.com/article/20120402/OEM01/304029991#ixzz1qwAYNwuh
I've heard a lot of talk from the [this word has been banned due to its use as a pointless flame tool]ys of how awesome and great the BRZ/FR-S are going to be (OMG! 2 door coupe! RWD!) - but if Subaru of America only asked for 6000 units for the entire year, and Toyota says 10-15K for the year...seems the automakers don't share the same enthusiasm.

Hyundai themselves stated that they expect the Elantra coupe and GT to only augment Elantra sedan sales - they are selling every Elantra sedan they make here, so by importing coupes and GTs using excess capacity overseas, they can offer them with little effort.

Essentially, you are looking at 1000 or less units per month of these coupes.

If CGLLC had excess capacity to offer a Dart coupe and could do it profitably, great. I don't see it anytime soon.
 
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