Yes, this year's show circuit is going to be very interesting.



Also, after this summer, SRT will once again redefine "horsepower".



(Please refer to certain related Allpar threads for details.)

 

I'm sure it's already been covered, but why do the AWD cars come with 19" instead of 20" wheels?

 

It's that way with all the LX based AWD cars had 19" max. No idea why but I'd guess clearance.

 

For those wanting more power with AWD there are multiple superchargers available for the pentastar. Both centrifugal and screw type superchargers currently exist. I know of several who have pushed the engines well past 400hp. whether the 845 transmission will hold up to that, I won't speculate.

 

Still not a HEMI

 

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Bully. It's good a target was hit. That's a positive.
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Was on F-1 site reading about Rosberg's retirement and the 2017 engine rules, and in the side bar was a series of pix of 3 or 4 different SRT Hellcat AWDs with giant tires sticking out beyond the bodies. Giant; 9"+ on the front and 10-11" on the back. No flares, but they sure needed 'em. They are not a rumor, they exist. Will they be produced? Wide bodies and all? "Yes" to that would be a rumor. Are they bitchin'? Does a Bear . . .?
DrDaveUTB4478

 

And if anybody read through the press release on the 2017 Hi-po offerings re the Charger and Challenger . . . was anybody else struck by how cool apparent side stripes looked on that black challenger (actually reflections of the center stripe). Like GTX stripes on steroids. Tone em down, just a bit and WOW! They'd really break up that vast expanse of sheet metal. What vast expanse? compare the shots of the Orig. orange '71 T/A and current (2017) green monster side by side.
The stock Monster would shred the 71 in any performance and comfort comparison (rode from Rhode Island to WashDC and back in a car precisely like that pictured (Bob Carman's T/A same color and all) in '73 right at the height of Watergate time. MAN. We only survived because we were young! Worst seats ever!
But how much more beautiful, and with how much more performance potential was the E body! No contest. Strap the 92 and six pot Brembos (with E-booger's steering gusseting) on the E-body, and see who rules.

 

And if anybody read through the press release on the 2017 Hi-po offerings re the Charger and Challenger . . . was anybody else struck by how cool apparent side stripes looked on that black challenger (actually reflections of the center stripe). Like GTX stripes on steroids. Tone em down, just a bit and WOW! They'd really break up that vast expanse of sheet metal. What vast expanse? compare the shots of the Orig. orange '71 T/A and current (2017) green monster side by side.
The stock Monster would shred the 71 in any performance and comfort comparison (rode from Rhode Island to WashDC and back in a car precisely like that pictured (Bob Carman's T/A same color and all) in '73 right at the height of Watergate time. MAN. We only survived because we were young! Worst seats ever!
But how much more beautiful, and with how much more performance potential was the E body! No contest. Strap the 92 and six pot Brembos (with E-booger's steering gusseting) on the E-body, and see who rules.

If no one else has already said so, welcome to Allpar, Dr. Dave.

I still remember my ride home from Daytona spring break in 1990 in an AAR 'cuda - Moulin Rouge! The guy started out not wanting me to drive until he wore out around North Carolina and let me take over. As you've observed, there are certainly differences between old and new and as long as the laws of physics still apply, there are advantages performancewise on both sides. Which brings me to my point (and back on-topic): Own both. The old stuff because of history, performance and coolness and the new stuff because of the same reasons plus comfort/technology.

 

Yes, Allpar was first to break that story. There are multiple threads that talk about wide body Challengers coming.

 

Wow....this could be replacing my Mustang in a few years....hmmmmm.

 

Still no idea of the curb weight?

 

AWD adds 220 pounds on the Charger, should be the same for the Challenger.

Mike

 

Just saw a commercial for the AWD Challenger on Graveyard-Cars-episode(aired 12/14/16) @ minute 50! This is a new episode. BTW love this show! It has Mark Worman delivering Bill Goldberg's 1967 GTX convertible.

It is the footage from post #31 (thanks, Bob) with narration from their "Dodge commercial guy" (sorry, don't know his name - but if you've ever heard a Dodge commercial, you know the voice). Talks about being able to see Russia from the U.S. and definitely SEEING the U.S. from Russia (the Challenger) up in Alaska. Ends with the tag-line; Domestic not Domesticated. Also mentions, this is the first all-wheel-drive muscle car! Pretty Sweet.

 

I hope this model does well, my problem is the price. Base Challenger 2wd V6 is about 27 now add AWD price jumps about 7K. Really!! The price gouging isn't even that bad on trucks difference between 2wd vs 4wd on Dodge Rams is about 3K. All prices I took from websites for 2017 models.

 

The GT has much more content than the base SXT.

 

AWD only adds about $2k to the Charger. Comparing the same models I'll bet Challenger is the same.

 

Only way to get Dodge Performance Pages on a V6...

 

SuperTrack Pack doesn't exist any longer for SXT?

 

Announced in todays NEWS PAPER! $34k not bad if that is correct.