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Anyone notice that RAM, Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler have the largest inventories of vehicles.
The consensus is they have priced themselves out of the market. Any thoughts?
The high prices have to hurt with the higher interest rates.
They also, generally, are not fuel efficient vehicles as we’ve seen some volatility in gas/diesel prices.
 

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Stellantis has margins in n america 30% or more higher than everyone else. And a finance subsidiary, finally. Does that mean an incentive war that it can win easily enough? At gm and ford 's expense?! "Bleed'em" via rebates? Watchout gm especially ;-) their finance units have contributed 20%+- to gm and ford earnings all these post2008 years. Not so fca. But as the business and macroeconomic cycle endgame is here: watchout since stellantis has the financial er margin to bleed em dry IF they decide to go that route (outspend on rebates, higher low margin fleet sales, cheapened financing....)
 

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Stellantis has margins in n america 30% or more higher than everyone else. And a finance subsidiary, finally. Does that mean an incentive war that it can win easily enough? At gm and ford 's expense?! "Bleed'em" via rebates? Watchout gm especially ;-) their finance units have contributed 20%+- to gm and ford earnings all these post2008 years. Not so fca. But as the business and macroeconomic cycle endgame is here: watchout since stellantis has the financial er margin to bleed em dry IF they decide to go that route (outspend on rebates, higher low margin fleet sales, cheapened financing....)
They only have margins because investment in new products was extremely low and they are way behind the industry. Notice how every other automaker has a fresher lineup? Time is ticking.
 

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My Fiat Spider turned 4 years old yesterday. This is the longest I have held onto a car since I graduated college.

But I am in no rush to buy anything. Between insane prices, crummy dealers, high interest rates, and low miles on both my vehicles due to Work From Home, I can sit and wait....
 

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Stellantis has margins in n america 30% or more higher than everyone else. And a finance subsidiary, finally. Does that mean an incentive war that it can win easily enough? At gm and ford 's expense?! "Bleed'em" via rebates? Watchout gm especially ;-) their finance units have contributed 20%+- to gm and ford earnings all these post2008 years. Not so fca. But as the business and macroeconomic cycle endgame is here: watchout since stellantis has the financial er margin to bleed em dry IF they decide to go that route (outspend on rebates, higher low margin fleet sales, cheapened financing....)
Compass is 20% off MSRP. Those "great" margins have already evaporated.
 

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My Fiat Spider turned 4 years old yesterday. This is the longest I have held onto a car since I graduated college.

But I am in no rush to buy anything. Between insane prices, crummy dealers, high interest rates, and low miles on both my vehicles due to Work From Home, I can sit and wait....
For me it is also the addition of too much high tech in modern cars (just posted in “Auto News” about the new 2024 E-class interior). So much just seems over the top…
 

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They only have margins because investment in new products was extremely low and they are way behind the industry. Notice how every other automaker has a fresher lineup? Time is ticking.
Brother, is it ever!
Such a lovely parting gift from the former FCA that just keeps on giving!
One more hot steaming pile for CT to clean up.
 

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My Fiat Spider turned 4 years old yesterday. This is the longest I have held onto a car since I graduated college.

But I am in no rush to buy anything. Between insane prices, crummy dealers, high interest rates, and low miles on both my vehicles due to Work From Home, I can sit and wait....
My Ram is 16 years old and I am in no rush to replace it. So far, it is the longest I have owned a vehicle. I have been working from home since 2017 (before the pandemic). I can indeed sit and wait.

At any rate I can't afford another vehicle. We purchased a 2016 Toyota Rav4 last year to replace my wife's Equinox that blew its engine. It will be a while before I am in the market.
 

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2022 Compass Limited ONLY
Because inventories are high....the subject of this thread.

2023 Compass with the new powertrain already has 1.9% financing, $500 cash back, and special lease deals.

$2000 cash on 2023 Wrangler 4xe already.....
 
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Because inventories are high....the subject of this thread.

2023 Compass with the new powertrain already has 1.9% financing, $500 cash back, and special lease deals.

$2000 cash on 2023 Wrangler 4xe already.....
When demand falls, the most stale products usually suffer first and the most.
Wrangler 4xe is a lot of what has been propping up Wrangler sales. Wrangler is already "old", soon to be 7 model years old.
 
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