[Dave Z]

"all we have are couple of awkard Fiats as new vehicles"

500L is a pretty big deal... 500e should help consumer perceptions... 500C Abarth, okay we knew that was coming.

Charger Daytona and T&C S... the former is a cool beans. The latter, maybe.

Yes, I agree on the 200. I don't think they will do the rest you mention. I would guess "maybe" a new-Challenger concept (LA is coming); and some option packages. Something to show off UConnect 2, perhaps, too. Maybe the HD Rams.

Dart SRT-4 -- no, I sincerely doubt that. Dart R/T, maybe.

New York should get the 2014 Grand Cherokee "maybe," the Liberkee if it's close enough but I doubt it. Chicago might be Liberkee. New Rams, I don't know -- Texas? Did they already show 'em?

 

[Dave Z]

oh2o is usually right. I'll amend... keeping in mind once I know something for sure, I probably won't be able to comment on it

BTW if you clear your browser cache and do a hard refresh you may find the Allpar custom icons returning on the main topic page, anyway.

 

[Dave Z]

I think that's a reference to Norm overstepping reasonable criticism of the Patriot.

 

[Dave Z]

I am guessing Grand Cherokee and perhaps 8-speed LX Hemis. Oh, and Maserati Ghiblit?

 

[Dave Z]

Destination is $995. Transmission is six speed stick. Pay $1300 or so more and it's an auto,.

 

[Dave Z]

In the old days they would have slapped a $2,000 rebate on. This is much better...

 

[Dave Z]

Original Dart GT was a slant six car. http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/dart-buyers-guide.html

 

[Dave Z]

I will not bet on the Dart getting the nine-speed, for cost reasons. At least not in this generation.

 

[Dave Z]

Looking at what we know in advance (thanks to those here who provided that info, you know who you are!) of the R/T and what was announced on the GT, they are pretty much the same car with a name and price change.

I would not read much into the name change. I believe that they did not want the reports to be "Dodge lowers price of R/T!" but "Dodge launches new car we didn't know about!"

Or someone just decided as long as they were going with Dart, they might as well use the GT which already existed... and in its first year would not have burned up the track either, with its mandatory slant six (no Hyper-Pack either.)

As for the 1.4 ... I think it's a great engine for open spaces, just not for city driving. It seemed pretty strong going up hills and down freeways, I just didn't think it particularly liked the stop and go of local Route 46 (similar to long stretches of Route 1 or 18 or Woodward).

 

[Dave Z]

Sorry - we won't go live until one minute after midnight, Monday early morning / Sunday late night. That's when the embargo ends.

 

[Dave Z]

Keep an eye on the Allpar news, we're feeding bits of news as the day goes on -- yesterday and today. Long interview with Saad Chebad on the meaning of Chrysler.

 

[Dave Z]

500L was there, doors locked.