[superduckie5000]

From Automotive News:

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130317/RETAIL05/130319926/chrysler-tells-2500-owners-of-v-6-challengers-to-stop-driving&cciid=email-autonews-blast#axzz2Nq18b8Mq

TMD

 

[MoparNorm]

The effected cars had wire looms that were attempted to be repaired by plant workers...shouldn't the supplier have been called instead and replaced those wire looms???
Or did the supplier suggest the on the spot repair, to keep production running?

 

[marlon_jbt]

Norm, that's a loaded situation... I can't even get into the reasons why...

 

[MoparNorm]

Norm, that's a loaded situation... I can't even get into the reasons why...

The claims from total quality management is that workers* have the ability
To contact the suppliers directly and resolve problems like this.
It sounds like the wheels came off of the process in this case, likely through human error.

* shift supervisors

 

[guyverfanboy]

Definitely not good news, but thankfully it was a small number of cars.

 

[Jackratchett]

Wow! Interesting that the workers would willy nilly be repairing 2500 cars without the supplier or engineering being involved. Does a repair method on 2500 cars not have to be approved by anyone? :huh:

 

[redhed]

interesting that it only affects the Challenger and not the other LX cars.

 

[LXbuilder]

Wow! Interesting that the workers would willy nilly be repairing 2500 cars without the supplier or engineering being involved. Does a repair method on 2500 cars not have to be approved by anyone? :huh:

It certainly does, nothing more to say about that.

 

[RVC]

Yikes...

 

[JRS200x]

Nothin a lil electrical tape, glue and good ol ingenuity can't fix! ... /fire ... Damn.

 

[MoparNorm]

Wow! Interesting that the workers would willy nilly be repairing 2500 cars without the supplier or engineering being involved. Does a repair method on 2500 cars not have to be approved by anyone? :huh:

I think it's now safe to say that someone/something, went out of bounds at the plant in a misguided attempt to keep the line rolling.
Sometimes we think we are doing the right thing, and it turns out to be the exact opposite of right.

 

[jam1]

Am told by my local dealer that it's the positive battery cable assembly ..... thank goodness it wasn't one of the c.p.u. harnesses or something like that..... now it MIGHT make sense to some why the part was used(not making excuses for bad decisions)..... again, maybe if you think in terms of how "mechanics" think..... it was/is still a risk but no one knows what was discussed or what took place. Again, am not taking sides just pointing out that until the facts are released(if there are) no one knows why or exactly what took place. Am sure the "decision-process" by the assembly line folks will be handled discussed with them and the vendor issue addressed. Mine will be at the dealer later this week to get fixed. Best wishes all!

More research; this was received: "Engine starter battery positive terminal"..... either it's the starter's positive battery post/connection point or the positive side of the harness that attaches to the starter itself?

 

[dfarc]

interesting that it only affects the Challenger and not the other LX cars.

2011 refresh LX, LD received new harnesses. Challenger will mov over after refresh.

 

[LeeRyder]

Well.. kudo's to Chrysler for this VERY quick attn to rectify the problem and getting the word/recall out.

*face palm* to the clown who fixed it..until it was broken....

 

[joewho]

plant workers only do what the bosses tell us to do so dont blame the worker

The effected cars had wire looms that were attempted to be repaired by plant workers...shouldn't the supplier have been called instead and replaced those wire looms???
Or did the supplier suggest the on the spot repair, to keep production running?

 

[JoshMHam]

plant workers only do what the bosses tell us to do so dont blame the worker

While I agree that this was likely a fix suggested by Chrysler/Supplier, to assume that the plant workers always follow approved protocols is rediculous.

 

[Erik Latranyi]

plant workers only do what the bosses tell us to do so dont blame the worker

I don't think you should call plant workers mindless idiots. Most I have met are quite intelligent.

 

[LXbuilder]

While I agree that this was likely a fix suggested by Chrysler/Supplier, to assume that the plant workers always follow approved protocols is rediculous.

No this statement like all the other "anti-union" implications that have crept up here lately is ridiculous. Hourly does what it's told as it's told, management makes the decisions on any "issues" that arise, period. ("fixes" are not "suggested" to hourly, they are ordered to hourly, again period)

 

[Erik Latranyi]

No this statement like all the other "anti-union" implications that have crept up here lately is ridiculous. Hourly does what it's told as it's told, management makes the decisions on any "issues" that arise, period. ("fixes" are not "suggested" to hourly, they are ordered to hourly, again period)

Does hourly make suggestions to management? Are any of those implemented?

 

[LXbuilder]

Does hourly make suggestions to management? Are any of those implemented?

In general? Yes and sometimes.