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Car and Trend had a review of Model S vs Hellcat: it is a tight race until they hit 50 MPH. Beyond that, the Tesla runs out of steam while the Hellcat keeps going. By the time they hit 100 MPH it’s not even a contest.

Now, imagine if instead of a supercharger, that Hellcat 6.2 V8 had an electric motor...
 

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Car and Trend had a review of Model S vs Hellcat: it is a tight race until they hit 50 MPH. Beyond that, the Tesla runs out of steam while the Hellcat keeps going. By the time they hit 100 MPH it’s not even a contest.

Now, imagine if instead of a supercharger, that Hellcat 6.2 V8 had an electric motor...
Both the gas mileage and the performance would be fantastic...
 

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There is an interview of Jim Lentz, Toyota USA's CEO, on Auto News.

Here is an interesting excerpt that goes to the heart of my and Dave's point:

Lexus has a new hybrid strategy of reducing the price gap compared with the gasoline models. Is that part of a broader strategy for Toyota? What's the goal?

If you look at the overall industry, it's about 2.7 percent hybrid. We're about 9 percent, Toyota and Lexus combined. By 2020, that number is going to be about 15 percent. To a degree, our success on Prius has created challenges for hybrid.

Prius was so successful as a mileage play that it's more difficult to convince consumers that hybrids actually generate a lot of power and a lot of torque. So as we move from 9 percent to 15 percent and likely beyond that over time, hybrid has to mean different things to different people.

By 2025, our goal is to have an electrified powertrain available for all vehicles. It could be a hybrid, it could be a plug-in, it could be a fuel cell or it could be an EV. By 2030, half of what we sell, over 5 million vehicles, will be electrified. And of that 5 million, a million will be pure battery EVs or fuel cell. So, we really need to convince consumers that hybrids are more than just mileage.
And here are his views on EVs:

Do you get nervous about not having a full-electric play, like the Nissan Leaf and Chevrolet Bolt? And on the luxury side, with all the investment there by Porsche and others?

I don't think that the market will move that quickly. If you look at 2016, the market in the U.S. was 0.47 percent EV. Last year, it was 0.62 percent. So, yes it's moving. But is it really going to move quickly enough to create enough demand for all the supply all the OEMs are talking about? I don't think it is.
Here is the entire interview: TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA CEO JIM LENTZ: Nervous about profits as incentives climb
 
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