[DrMark]

...the new Charger concept will morph to a 4 door for the production vehicle.

I sure hope so.

It's an interesting car, but no way I'd buy one as a 2-door.

 

[JohnRogers]

Not saying your wrong, but the data gathered from buyers of the Challenger are always strongly in favor of keeping it a large muscle car. I really hope Dodge listens to the people who make the Challenger profitable and not the outsiders who complain but wouldn’t buy the product even if it were exactly built to their demands.

That doesn't mean we wouldn't like it lighter. Which of course isn't easy.

 

[Player1]

Wide angle lens shot, perspective probably making it look much bigger than it is.

 

[thebluegoat]

I had this sent to me last night. Not sure if accuracy.

 

[Erik Latranyi]

I had this sent to me last night. Not sure if accuracy.
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It is not official, but looks probable.

No mention of Sterling Heights or Belvidere.

 

[thebluegoat]

It is not official, but looks probable.

No mention of Sterling Heights or Belvidere.

It was a 13 page document. That’s the only page I had sent to me so SHAP or Belvidere could be in the other ones.

 

[serpens]

I had this sent to me last night. Not sure if accuracy.

Dang. Shame Chrysler's new product won't be rolling out until 3 years from now to the month. I was hoping it'd be early 2025 at the latest. Also wow @ the next-gen Pacifica not coming until 2028! Hopefully the hybrid continues to get upgraded.

 

[JohnRogers]

I had this sent to me last night. Not sure if accuracy.
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Not being seriously interested in any of the End of the Line special editions but wanting to "cross shop" the current generation against the all new Challenger. What is my window for comparing the 2023 vs the new 2024? Does my question make sense?

 

[MIKE3187]

I had this sent to me last night. Not sure if accuracy.
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1. no Durango
2. no new Chrysler other than Airflow (didn't Feuell mention multiple crossovers coming?)
3. no Hornet (assuming because built overseas)
4. We do see Charger and Challenger both being present despite some peoples ideas that Challenger goes away
5. Voyager will continue, but in what form?

Is this list not including all plant locations? Is this only showing certain platforms (STLA Large/Frame)?

 

[serpens]

1. no Durango
2. no new Chrysler other than Airflow (didn't Feuell mention multiple crossovers coming?)
3. no Hornet (assuming because built overseas)
4. We do see Charger and Challenger both being present despite some peoples ideas that Challenger goes away
5. Voyager will continue, but in what form?

Is this list not including all plant locations? Is this only showing certain platforms (STLA Large/Frame)?

You missed bluegoat's other post:

It was a 13 page document. That’s the only page I had sent to me so SHAP or Belvidere could be in the other ones.

 

[MIKE3187]

You missed bluegoat's other post:

Yup, I did miss that.. that explains the first 3 things then

Wonder if Voyager will be a cheaper Pacifica or if we will finally see differentiation/different body style

 

[Erik Latranyi]

Yup, I did miss that.. that explains the first 3 things then

Wonder if Voyager will be a cheaper Pacifica or if we will finally see differentiation/different body style

Voyager exists now. It has been used for fleet sales.

 

[MIKE3187]

Voyager exists now. It has been used for fleet sales.

Aware of that, I’m talking about the 2028 model noted.. with production coinciding with Pacifica it’s looking like it’ll continue being the cheaper fleet model at this point

 

[DC-93]

Looking like the electric Charger is now a 2025.

 

[Adventurer55]

Looking like the electric Charger is now a 2025.

So here's my question. If this new model won't arrive until 25 at the earliest, and sources say it's going to be sourced from Windsor. What happens to the 24 model year then?

 

[valiant67]

So here's my question. If this new model won't arrive until 25 at the earliest, and sources say it's going to be sourced from Windsor. What happens to the 24 model year then?

Theoretically that could mean a long 2023 model year, no 2024 model year, and an early 2025 model year.
2023 can run until 12/31/2023. But if production of the new starts after 1/1/2024 it can be a 2025 model if I remember correctly.

 

[Doctor No]

So here's my question. If this new model won't arrive until 25 at the earliest, and sources say it's going to be sourced from Windsor. What happens to the 24 model year then?

Last Call 2 - Pre-Electric Bugaloo. Six new limited edition models designed to drain Brampton of all remaining extra parts and the consumer from their money. Look out for a GTS, Night Runner, VooDoo Edition and the like. Maybe they can cut a deal with Carroll Shelby Licensing to do both cars draped in Shelby logos.

 

[Adventurer55]

Last Call 2 - Pre-Electric Bugaloo. Six new limited edition models designed to drain Brampton of all remaining extra parts and the consumer from their money. Look out for a GTS, Night Runner, VooDoo Edition and the like. Maybe they can cut a deal with Carroll Shelby Licensing to do both cars draped in Shelby logos.

It seems now the plant is shut. Not enough parts.

 

[Chris mopar]

Theoretically that could mean a long 2023 model year, no 2024 model year, and an early 2025 model year.
2023 can run until 12/31/2023. But if production of the new starts after 1/1/2024 it can be a 2025 model if I remember correctly.

Yes, but the delay is until 2025 calendar year not model year, the ev Charger and Challenger could even be a 26 model year. What and where will be built for 24 and 25 model years.

 

[ChargerZ]

Ralph said in the TFL interview that the Charger design is not possible with a ICE. I think this will be a BEV only.

Could we see a Charger or Challenger Classic like the Ram? I would love to see a hybrid Charger or Challenger, I really don't see myself buying a BEV and I bet there are a lot of Mopar buyers who feel the same way, the Classic exists because they didn't want to lose buyers who liked the old body style on the Ram.