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Two stories brought to us by China... I think it goes without saying the questions this raises. Lets begin.

Chrysler and iPhone-maker Foxconn to team up on electric car for China. Article/Article 2

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iPhone-maker Foxconn is looking to get into the automobile business soon. The Chinese electronics giant is in talks with Fiat Chrysler to develop and build electric cars in China. The Chinese electronics giant is in talks with Fiat Chrysler to develop and build electric cars in China. Fiat Chrysler currently builds several vehicles in China for regional sales, including the plug-in hybrid Jeep Grand Commander, through a joint venture with Chinese automaker GAC. Meanwhile, PSA Group, with which Fiat Chrysler is currently planning to merge, also manufactures Citroen and Peugeot models in the country.
Fiat Chrysler and Foxconn said they hope to work out a deal within six months and will initially focus on sales in China. There currently aren’t any plans to export vehicles to the United States, where Fiat Chrysler’s only all-electric model is the Mexican-made Fiat 500E, which is scheduled to be discontinued this year.


Jeep To Electrify Vehicles Thanks To China Article

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In the several months since Christian Meunier took over the reins of Jeep worldwide, the new global president of the Jeep brand has made it clear he's focusing less on interior features and luxuries, more on technology. Predictably, as goes the entire industry, so goes the off-roading icon. Christian recently told Car and Driver that his plans for the Jeep brand in the 2020s include an aggressive plan to launch plug-in-hybrid and, later, electric Jeeps throughout the coming decade.

That's ambitious, considering Jeep only launched its first hybrid in November 2019. The plug-in-hybrid variant of the China-market Commander is an SUV of roughly Grand Cherokee size that starts at an equivalent of $44,070 after Chinese subsidies.

China's position as the largest automotive sales market in the world means the country is an oversize reason for many of Jeep's electrification plans. Cars there are taxed and classified by engine size, with larger engines becoming prohibitively expensive. Hybrids and EVs short-circuit these rules, however, so they're available to much larger swath of the buying market. Lucky for us that U.S. consumers get to benefit from these greener vehicles as well.

What we are getting stateside—in part because of this Chinese effort, according to Meunier—is a whole range of hybrid and electric Jeeps. "We're bringing as many electric Jeeps as we can. Next year, we will have the [plug-in-hybrid] Renegade, Compass, and Wrangler," he said. For those keeping track at home, that would be half of the Jeep models available in the U.S.; the others are the Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and Gladiator. We showed you images of the Wrangler hybrid mule driving around southeastern Michigan last March.
Three hybrid model rollouts in a year? That's a fairly aggressive timeline, and it will be interesting to see if Jeep can hit it. So far, hybrids have certainly been a mixed bag for manufacturers. Representing roughly 2 percent or less of new-car sales in the U.S. since 2015 (and never more than 3.2 percent since 2001), hybrids have hardly captured the public's desire. However, Toyota shifted a full 25 percent of all RAV4s sold last year in the hybrid spec, so there are clearly winners in the space.

By 2022, Meunier vows that all Jeep models will have an electrified variant—which could mean hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or fully electric. While that sounds ambitious, it largely tracks with industry-wide trends and product timelines from competing manufacturers, both domestic and foreign. FCA as a whole is moving towards more hybridization, and component and technology sharing will be key to making this a quick and cost-effective rollout of electric technology.

It's important to note, though, that we have absolutely no details about any future fully electric Jeep model yet.

Meunier didn't provide any, but he expressed excitement about the prospects of off-roading in a Wrangler under battery-only propulsion. He spoke of pairing EV silence with the pleasure of being in the backcountry with the doors removed, the roof open, and the Wrangler crawling up a slick rock. To him, that would make the experience much closer to nature. Well, it does make sense if you look at it that way.

Three hybrid model rollouts in a year? That's a fairly aggressive timeline, and it will be interesting to see if Jeep can hit it. So far, hybrids have certainly been a mixed bag for manufacturers. Representing roughly 2 percent or less of new-car sales in the U.S. since 2015 (and never more than 3.2 percent since 2001), hybrids have hardly captured the public's desire. However, Toyota shifted a full 25 percent of all RAV4s sold last year in the hybrid spec, so there are clearly winners in the space.

By 2022, Meunier vows that all Jeep models will have an electrified variant—which could mean hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or fully electric. While that sounds ambitious, it largely tracks with industry-wide trends and product timelines from competing manufacturers, both domestic and foreign. FCA as a whole is moving towards more hybridization, and component and technology sharing will be key to making this a quick and cost-effective rollout of electric technology.

It's important to note, though, that we have absolutely no details about any future fully electric Jeep model yet.

Meunier didn't provide any, but he expressed excitement about the prospects of off-roading in a Wrangler under battery-only propulsion. He spoke of pairing EV silence with the pleasure of being in the backcountry with the doors removed, the roof open, and the Wrangler crawling up a slick rock. To him, that would make the experience much closer to nature. Well, it does make sense if you look at it that way.
 

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drivring a ev jeep off road is better. If you have to across a 800 mile desert, you can't enough gas with you, but with solor panels you can recharge the batterys. It might take 2 or 3 days to recharge but it can be done.
 

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Also, at least the Compass and Renegade will have a decent battery size since they have to target the european emissions targets.
Not sure about the Gladiator though.
 

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If you really love nature you would not be crashing through the woods in a vehicle, you would be walking. Love of nature is just an excuse to enjoy your machine, Nothing wrong with that, but trying to dress it up is just an attempt to appise the Green crowd.
 

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If you really love nature you would not be crashing through the woods in a vehicle, you would be walking. Love of nature is just an excuse to enjoy your machine, Nothing wrong with that, but trying to dress it up is just an attempt to appise the Green crowd.
Not true. A lot of Jeep & off-road clubs do trail maintenance, and organize efforts to clean up the trails. They want to enjoy their vehicles, but they try to do the least amount of damage. They’re not just “crashing through the woods”.

One can care about the environment while still enjoying the use of it. It’s called responsible stewardship.
 

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I am more interested on this Foxconn electric car project with Chrysler and what it will mean for future Chrysler EV's. Seems like China is in Chrysler's future one way or another.
 

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I am more interested on this Foxconn electric car project with Chrysler and what it will mean for future Chrysler EV's. Seems like China is in Chrysler's future one way or another.
If FCA were indeed dealing with a Chinese company, I would share your concern...and then some.

However, Foxconn is headquartered in Taiwan...better known to some of us older 'Muricans' as Nationalist China, or Free China!
 
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