There is a slight resemblance to Jack RATCHETT's copper colored 200 (from the side view).humdrum said:
There is a slight resemblance to Jack RATCHETT's copper colored 200 (from the side view).humdrum said:I found these renderings of the upcoming 200 interesting. Speculation. mind you. On the: http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/03/next-generation-2014-chrysler-200-sedan.html website,
What do you feel is outdated about them?GuidoFL said:The 200 and Avenger are out dated, a new model is a must have!
A lot is. Just get in one and then go get in a Dart. They still FEEL old and cheap, and the layout just doesn't look great. Is it a perfectly functional car? Absolutely. Is it a bargain and steal at current prices? Yes.Stratuscaster said:What do you feel is outdated about them?
I beg to differ, please read my comments on the 200 rental thread, and remember that this is a very base model. Also, what makes you think that a 6 year old platform is old, since the 300 is based on an 8 year old platform, and the Dart, while revised, is on an equally old Guillieta platform?JRS200x said:A lot is. Just get in one and then go get in a Dart. They still FEEL old and cheap, and the layout just doesn't look great. Is it a perfectly functional car? Absolutely. Is it a bargain and steal at current prices? Yes.
That doesn't make it a great car. This is especially true of the Avenger.
I agree 100%JRS200x said:A lot is. Just get in one and then go get in a Dart. They still FEEL old and cheap, and the layout just doesn't look great. Is it a perfectly functional car? Absolutely. Is it a bargain and steal at current prices? Yes.
That doesn't make it a great car. This is especially true of the Avenger.
The 200 is old...it lacks all of the good things that the Dart and 300 possessStratuscaster said:OK, so they "feel" old, the layout (of what?) seems to be lacking, and the Dart is newer.
Is that it?
yea!!! what he said....lolJRS200x said:You can defend the vehicle all you want, and again, I don't think its a terrible vehicle, just desperately needs updating. The dash, while a GIANT leap forward from the Sebring is still not great, and the plastic surround to the radio/hvac etc is extremely cheap and develops rattles. At least in the 200 they paint it, so it looks better, but in the Avenger, its an eyesore.
The radios are old, and too complicated to do simple things. The list of missing features that CJD pointed out is another not to mention that gas mileage is nothing fantastic and the NVH of the 4 cylinder/6 speed combo is not great and that SHOULD BE the top selling combo. The fact that the vehicle maxes out at 30mpg highway is also outdated, christ the Charger/300 with a V6 does better than the 4 cylinder 200/Avenger.
The price is great, and again, it is a fantastic bargain atm, but thats it. If it wasn't incentivized so aggressively they wouldn't sell at all and THAT, is the sign of a vehicle that desperately needs help.
And don't even get me started on the 200 Convertible... That thing is ghastly.
Got to agree, it wasn't the top of the class when it came out and hasn't aged well. Fiat did a wonderful job polishing it up to bridge the gap until it can be replaced.JRS200x said:You can defend the vehicle all you want, and again, I don't think its a terrible vehicle, just desperately needs updating. The dash, while a GIANT leap forward from the Sebring is still not great, and the plastic surround to the radio/hvac etc is extremely cheap and develops rattles. At least in the 200 they paint it, so it looks better, but in the Avenger, its an eyesore.
The radios are old, and too complicated to do simple things. The list of missing features that CJD pointed out is another not to mention that gas mileage is nothing fantastic and the NVH of the 4 cylinder/6 speed combo is not great and that SHOULD BE the top selling combo. The fact that the vehicle maxes out at 30mpg highway is also outdated, christ the Charger/300 with a V6 does better than the 4 cylinder 200/Avenger.
The price is great, and again, it is a fantastic bargain atm, but thats it. If it wasn't incentivized so aggressively they wouldn't sell at all and THAT, is the sign of a vehicle that desperately needs help.
And don't even get me started on the 200 Convertible... That thing is ghastly.
...its like 40k in Canada...JRS200x said:And don't even get me started on the 200 Convertible... That thing is ghastly...expensive
You missed one, no dual-zone ATC, that one bothers me too because my wife and I can never agree on what the temp should be set at. You are wrong about the wheels though, my Limited has beaitiful 18 " polished aluminum wheels that look better than a lot of cars at that price range, and they are standard equipment on that model.CJDsalespro said:The 200 is old...it lacks all of the good things that the Dart and 300 possess
No back up camera
no 8.4 screen
no heated sterring wheel
no passenger power seat
no HID's
no blind spot monitoring
no option for chrome wheels(that one still perplexes me) on 200
worst in class fuel econmy (31...38 is the new benchmark)
and lastly