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I don't do either. :) Thank you for the suggestion, though.

I got my Challenger "valued" on KBB...now I am getting tons of calls from local dealers that want to see the car.
 

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Is there a product out there that is like an internal tire similar to what is used in NASCAR to keep a tire semi "inflated" after a puncture? With full size spares becoming a thing of the past on cars, something that can hold the rim and body off the ground during a flat would be useful.

This reminds me of a story that I think it was Benny Parsons told back in the day. To keep up a tire brands reputation for toughness against punctures, a tire marketing rep once told him to never say that he had a flat tire, but to say the tire "equalized pressure". :lol:
 

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I'd go for that, it's not that badly priced for actually seemingly being useful.
 

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I just received my spare tire kit. I will take some photos once I open the contents and mount it into the car.

Today I got some consolation when my friend, who drives a Toyota Prius plug-in, told me that he blew a tire as he drove over a beer bottle left against the curb only to find out he doesn't have a spare tire either. We tried to lift the trunk floor but it is sealed; it seems thats where the batteries are.

He was planning to drive the Prius to Las Vegas next week but, after what happened, they will be leaving the spare-less Prius parked in the driveway and take the other vehicle instead.
 

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I just received my spare tire kit. I will take some photos once I open the contents and mount it into the car.

Today I got some consolation when my friend, who drives a Toyota Prius plug-in, told me that he blew a tire as he drove over a beer bottle left against the curb only to find out he doesn't have a spare tire either. We tried to lift the trunk floor but it is sealed; it seems thats where the batteries are.

He was planning to drive the Prius to Las Vegas next week but, after what happened, they will be leaving the spare-less Prius parked in the driveway and take the other vehicle instead.
Wait until he has to change shocks!!!
The entire rear seat, battery cooling ducting and battery cover have to be removed to access two bolts!!!
 

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So I went and test drove a 2013 Mustang GT.

I love the looks, the way it handles, having a spare tire and backup camera, and that legendary sound of the 5.0 is great...although still no match for a HEMI.

But I just couldn't get past how cheap it looks and feels once you get close, climb inside and pop the hood: the steering wheel feels too thin compared to that in the Challenger; and the hard plastics covering the door panels, the quarter panels, etc. look and feel crude.

I was horrified when the courteous salesman popped the hood: there is a flimsy plastic covering the space above the grille and the radiator that shakes like it is about to come off; the plastic engine cover bends like it is made of goo; and the whole engine bay area has a very 1980s feel to it with exposed wires, jagged screws and electric tape everywhere you look.

I opened the door of my Challenger and those SRT seats looked so inviting and comfortable; the steering wheel thick and rich, and the sound of the HEMI puts the 5.0 to shame. It felt SOOOOOOOO good driving out of there.

Nothing like test driving the competition to regain some perspective.
 

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Glad to hear!
 

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Yeah, I've concluded that every car has something wrong with it, and if you're able to come to terms with what's wrong with yours, then you're not going to be disappointed a second time like if you buy a different vehicle and then have to learn, the hard way, what's wrong with it.

After an incident on my way up to Las Vegas I put a full-sized spare into my Stratus and subsequently under my Nissan Hardbody, and when I got the Impala I put a full-sized spare in there too. I'd put one in my wife's Integra but the well isn't large enough. I can't even fathom not having a spare, that'd be the first thing I'd change on a vehicle that could have one but lacks it.

Kind of bothersome with the Prius, not even having a place for one. I think that'd be a deal-killer for me. Even if a car doesn't come with one, if there's a place for even a donut then there's room to make changes.
 

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A friend has a Prius C that he bought last fall. He's fairly sure (but hadn't checked or thought about it) that he has no spare tire. He thinks they gave him a can of Fix-A-Flat, but he's not sure. I'll bet he checks tonight, as his commute is 55 miles each way.
 

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For what it's worth...

The last car we had that needed a constant supply of spare tires was our 1989 Ford Escort, which seemed to eat a tire every month and a wheel every six weeks. When we replaced it with a Neon, that was the last time we ever had a flat tire, unless you count the slow leaks from our battered PT Cruiser wheels. We handled that be selling the PT but were never stuck. It had a spare but we did not need to use it.

Our 300M briefly had the same problem but it was old enough to have an excuse ;) and had been driven along some very bad roads and had been hit hard in the wheels, numerous times. We replaced two of the wheels with junkyard wheels and that was it.

The last time I needed to pull out a spare for any reason other than to check it or fill it with air was probably over 15 years ago. For me, the donut spares are fine because I'm never that far from civilization. I'm not saying that to say that your needs are invalid, because they aren't, but to point out that for many people, the spare tire is not a real issue. That said -- I'd also think twice about driving a car without a spare. Though I'd sooner do that than drive my Valiant without an extra ballast resistor.
 

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From sometime in October until well into the new year, my Dakota had no spare tire because some crack-head low-life decided he needed a few bucks for scrap aluminum more than I needed a spare tire. Fortunately I discovered the spare was missing before I had the flat tire a several weeks back.
 

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I've used the spare on everything I've owned. Sooner or later I always pick up a nail, usually on the drive axle and usually on a gravel road. I've also done roadside tire-tube replacements on a motorcycle.

I'm OK with a donut spare on a 2WD car, even if I have to put the donut on the non-driven axle (regardless of which tire has the puncture) in order to keep equal-size wheels on the driven axle and avoid damage to a limited-slip differential.

On light trucks & SUV's I want a full-size spare on a 4x2, and consider it mandatory on a 4x4. Doesn't have to have a matching wheel, but at least I expect something that will not limit the vehicle's mobility. I assume that if it's a truck or SUV it ought to have enough free space somewhere to carry the spare. Also, I expect the spare to be accessible without unloading a pickup box (yes, Honda Ridgeline, I'm looking at you.)

I haven't really thought through AWD cars, but lean toward wanting at least a temporary spare that has a large enough diameter to not harm the AWD system. My mom's 2010 AWD Caddy CTS has the inflator kit and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I realize the spare tire well on that car is only big enough for a donut and maybe there's no good way to engineer a larger spare into the car, but I'm not happy with its being stuck with the inflator kit. (...I wonder what Chrysler does for AWD cars? I haven't looked into it...)
 

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We haven't had to use the spare tire in any of our vehicles for the past 10+ years

Doesn't mean I like knowing that it's there. That "fix a flat" stuff is useless in my experience. As a buddy says, you "should have two cans of it. One to guck up the flat tire, and the other to throw at something when the tire is still flat"
 

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I assume that if it's a truck or SUV it ought to have enough free space somewhere to carry the spare.
On the AWD Journey, the temp spare is narrower than the stock tire, but it is the same height.

The full sized tire does not fit in the under-car bay, and likely would not fit in the back with 4 people + weekend luggage. Note sure if it would fit with the 3rd row seats in use - will have to check and get back to you.

Mine does have roof-racks, so I will have to add rope to my emergency kit.
 

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As long as the rolling circumference is the same as the normal tire, I'm not completely opposed to a skinny, donut-ish spare. I'm actually looking to do just that in my Cordoba, as the spare sits in the trunk and takes up a considerable amount of space, if I can find a 27.0" tall donut-thickness spare that is 5 on 4.5" then that would be good enough in my mind.

I'm actually looking into the kinds of tires that British sports cars used to use, as they were tall and skinny and will fit on a nice narrow, space-saving rim.
 

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As long as the rolling circumference is the same as the normal tire, I'm not completely opposed to a skinny, donut-ish spare. I'm actually looking to do just that in my Cordoba, as the spare sits in the trunk and takes up a considerable amount of space, if I can find a 27.0" tall donut-thickness spare that is 5 on 4.5" then that would be good enough in my mind.

I'm actually looking into the kinds of tires that British sports cars used to use, as they were tall and skinny and will fit on a nice narrow, space-saving rim.
Look in Jeeps, like the plain Cherokee and the pre-1999 Grand Cherokee. Many had a tall temporary spare tire because of the 4x4 system.
 

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Look in Jeeps, like the plain Cherokee and the pre-1999 Grand Cherokee. Many had a tall temporary spare tire because of the 4x4 system.
Actually, my Grand Cherokee Ltd. was recalled for the installation of a real wheel and full sized spare. It seemed that folks were complaining or having issues with the smaller but same diameter tires.
If One was 75 miles out on the trail and ran through a section rife with rocks and cactus, the temp tire wouldn't last too long.
 

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valiant67 said:
Look in Jeeps, like the plain Cherokee and the pre-1999 Grand Cherokee. Many had a tall temporary spare tire because of the 4x4 system.
My Dads 01 XJ only has room for a doughnut, it was missing at purchase... But that's all that will fit.
 
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