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Take this with a MAJOR grain of salt as we do not have any real sources yet.

This claim comes from GM Authority of all places. They say Stellantis brass wants the Dakota project cancelled and now it is. There is no reasoning. Take with a grain of salt again!



Article / Feb 21, 2021

The New Ram Dakota Has Been Cancelled

Rumors that Stellantis was cooking up a new midsize pickup bearing the Ram Dakota nameplate have been swirling for a while, but now, GM Authority has learned from sources within Stallantis that the Ram Dakota project has been cancelled.

For those readers who may not know, Stellantis is a new automotive company formed by the merger of Fiat Chrysler and French automotive giant Groupe PSA. It was originally believed that the new company would introduce a fresh midsize truck with the Ram Dakota nameplate, which was discontinued following the 2011 model year.

The new Ram Dakota was believed to be based on the Jeep Gladiator, with a 3.6L V6 gasoline engine under the hood connecting to an eight-speed automatic transmission. Both rear-wheel-drive and four-wheel-drive would have been on the table, with an optional 3.0L V6 diesel powerplant also a possibility. An off-roader-spec Rebel trim also wasn’t out of the question, offering upgraded suspension, underbody protection, new tires, and more aggressive styling

For now, the exact motivation behind Stellantis’ decision to cancel the new Ram Dakota project is unclear, but it could be that the company is satisfied with the performance of the Jeep Gladiator, reasoning that another midsize pickup wasn’t necessary.

Looking over the midsize mainstream pickup segment, we find the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon taking second place in terms of sales, with 27,709 units and 9,007 units sold, respectively, during the fourth quarter of 2020. The Toyota Tacoma was first in the segment with 75,187 units during the same time period, while the Jeep Gladiator was fourth with 20,552 units sold.


Had Stellantis followed through with a new Ram Dakota, the resulting pickup would have served as a direct rival to the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon.


UPDATE March, 2021: Dakota Maybe Not Cancelled

March, 2021: Dakota Revival Could Happen Still
 

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Dakota is another Native American name.
 

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Take this with a MAJOR grain of salt as we do not have any real sources yet.

This claim comes from GM Authority of all places. They say Stellantis brass wants the Dakota project cancelled and now it is. There is no reasoning. Take with a grain of salt again!
Now that the company is mostly European, we'll have to change that 1 grain of salt to 64.7989 milligrams! :D :p
 

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With gas prices going up and the government powers that be committed to keeping gas high it's probably not a good time to invest in a new truck. Frankly, that mid-size market is not large enough to support so many players, IMHO.
 

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This Stellantis company already has Daimler Chrysler written all over it.

I said to reassure the American consumer that Stellantis would have to do something big and splashy.

Instead Stellantis is cutting product and teams.

So what plant goes first Belvidere or Warren?
 

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With gas prices going up and the government powers that be committed to keeping gas high it's probably not a good time to invest in a new truck. Frankly, that mid-size market is not large enough to support so many players, IMHO.
The midsize truck market is growing much faster than the full size market.
 

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If true, it only means that whatever they may have been considering has been shelved. It doesn’t mean that they can’t or won’t come up with something else that fits better with their plans moving forward.

As usual, any “planned” product doesn’t mean much until it actually become product in production.
 

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We shall see. If this ends up being true, I will have to go elsewhere for a new truck, and buy a non-Chrysler product for the first time in my life - 42 years of Mopar ownership, 3rd-generation supporter.
 
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Where "Dodge Dakota" rolled off the tongue, "Ram Dakota", not so much.
From that stand point and to avoid any negative reactions associated with "Dakota",
What about "Ram Rebel" or reuse Ram Rampage" or Ram Ramcharger"
Or maybe since it's so difficult to name it, scrub the whole project entirely !!
 

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Where "Dodge Dakota" rolled off the tongue, "Ram Dakota", not so much.
From that stand point and to avoid any negative reactions associated with "Dakota",
What about "Ram Rebel" or reuse Ram Rampage" or Ram Ramcharger"
Or maybe since it's so difficult to name it, scrub the whole project entirely !!
NO!...Not Rebel. Can't you just picture the name being used to draw a connection to an unfortunate military conflict in the US from 1861 to 1865
 

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There already was a Ram Dakota. That’s where it ended.

I do remember the stink from a few years back about the Grand Wagoneer cancellation story which only meant it was canceled in one form (as a long Grand Cherokee).
 

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Now that the company is mostly European, we'll have to change that 1 grain of salt to 64.7989 milligrams! :D :p
No. Most likely, we'll change that to 50 mg, since it's of no real consequence in the measurement for these purposes, and the equipment for measuring to that degree of definition is too expensive. See Chrysler, Gun Maker: Bofors Guns of World War II

This Stellantis company already has Daimler Chrysler written all over it.

I said to reassure the American consumer that Stellantis would have to do something big and splashy.

Instead Stellantis is cutting product and teams.

So what plant goes first Belvidere or Warren?
🙄 It's a mole hill, not a mountain.
 
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