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Wow, your quick, I went and snoped around a couple of lots to get the same measurements.

Anyway, about the fuel, the online chat with the engineer the other week, this came up, now everything regarding this revolved around the SRT platform, but he said that the auto with (??) gears, vs. the 6 spd with 3.92's, the stick should get the same to 1 maybe 2 mpg better, that's if you can believe the engineers ;), in the RT with the 5.7 and all of the changes they made to that engine for this year, it'll probably be more of a difference. If you really look at the gear break downs in the sticks, the first 4 gears are set up for performance, 5 and 6 are definetly getting into the overdrive category, which is pretty much how he described it. Image that.

I don't think the wheel/tire combo's will matter hardly at all unless you change the tire package to something off what they have figured, i.e. 26" or 29" diameters, something like that.
I did a quick check at TireRack.com and found the calculation for tire diameter based on the tire size, no snooping required. :lol:

I had been under the impression that the different rear gears were to compensate for overall diameter differences, but that doesn't appear to be the case here, although a 1/2 inch may make a bigger difference than I know. Rather, the desired gear for maximum performance is the 3.92 and to prevent potential shredding of the rear tires during fast starts they need to install 20" wheels with Z rated rubber. By keeping the 3.73 rear for the 18" wheels, they're safe with lower rated, taller rubber and slightly slower starts. I'm guessing that the 6 speed R/T with the 3.73 rear will get a little better mileage than the 3.92 too.

This is all speculation mind you, and someone here with more experience than me is welcome to throw the BS flag. :p
 

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Without getting into gear ratios and all that...

Replacing the SE's 17 inchers with the R/T's 20 inchers would make your speedo read 2.4% too slow - ie; when the speedo says 60MPH, you are doing 61.5MPH.

Replacing the SE's 18 inchers with the R/T's 20 inchers would make your speedo read 0.2% too slow - ie; when the speedo says 60MPH, you are doing 60.1MPH.
 

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Without getting into gear ratios and all that...

Replacing the SE's 17 inchers with the R/T's 20 inchers would make your speedo read 2.4% too slow - ie; when the speedo says 60MPH, you are doing 61.5MPH.

Replacing the SE's 18 inchers with the R/T's 20 inchers would make your speedo read 0.2% too slow - ie; when the speedo says 60MPH, you are doing 60.1MPH.
Correct, and in this case, there probably isn't a speedo gear change that will compensate for such a small variance. Even choosing between the 18" and 20" R/T wheels will result in a slight mph variance. Guys with 20's need to watch out. :ph34r:
 

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That's been my hangup with the SRT, I keep thinking they could have done more with the wheels, although they are kinda growing on me.
I'm not a big fan of the way SRT wheels look, but they are forged. Ever price a set of forged wheels? The SRT may be a bargain just for the cost of the wheels and brakes.
 

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Correct, and in this case, there probably isn't a speedo gear change that will compensate for such a small variance. Even choosing between the 18" and 20" R/T wheels will result in a slight mph variance. Guys with 20's need to watch out. :ph34r:

Gear change in speedo???, don't they adjust that now through the computer, I heard that somewhere.

I'm not a big fan of the way SRT wheels look, but they are forged. Ever price a set of forged wheels? The SRT may be a bargain just for the cost of the wheels and brakes.
Yeah :eek: , I know what you mean, that's probably why they are growing on me.

The other thing that's in the back of my mind, my car will see track time, and I'm just wondering if I wouldn't be better off getting another set of wheels for that, and maybe drop back to 18's to pick up some more gearing????
 

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Just heard from my dealer that 35 Challengers slated for delivery in the Midwest were extensively damage in a recent Omaha hail storm. They were all sold units but now are headed for a Chrysler only auction and won't be delivered to some very disappointed perspective owners.

You might know... :(
 

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You are correct. Hooking your car up to a Starscan will let you change the calibration of the speedo. Pretty neat.
Well that's cool. The last time I saw a discussion about this sort of thing there was talk of a small gear that controlled it.
 

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Just heard from my dealer that 35 Challengers slated for delivery in the Midwest were extensively damage in a recent Omaha hail storm. They were all sold units but now are headed for a Chrysler only auction and won't be delivered to some very disappointed perspective owners.

You might know... :(

Yep! One of those cars was headed for the dealership that I work at, I guess they were beat to death with hail and high winds. Sucks because they said the cars simply will not be replaced and we will have to wait even longer now for our first one.
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I want to say thank you to all the people that work at BAP. I got my Challenger yesterday and it is great. I deserve a pat on the back.
O.K. I'll give you a pat on the back for buying our products and keeping me working! Are You happy now?

But seriously, Congratulations on receiving your new car. I haven't actually heard from any receiving theirs, except for Jay Leno, ofcourse.
 

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Yep! One of those cars was headed for the dealership that I work at, I guess they were beat to death with hail and high winds. Sucks because they said the cars simply will not be replaced and we will have to wait even longer now for our first one.
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My dealer was scheduled to get three and all were sold. Three someones are going to be disappointed... :(
 

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Just heard from my dealer that 35 Challengers slated for delivery in the Midwest were extensively damage in a recent Omaha hail storm. They were all sold units but now are headed for a Chrysler only auction and won't be delivered to some very disappointed perspective owners.

You might know... :(
I used to work at a dealership, and the son of the owner owned a paintless dent removal company. They used to travel all over the country fixing hail damage on dealership cars. I'm sure these cars will be sold. :unsure: I saw them fix a ton of hail damage on one of those older Dodge Ram Indy pace trucks, the blue one with the white stripes. You couldn't even tell when they were done.
 

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I used to work at a dealership, and the son of the owner owned a paintless dent removal company. They used to travel all over the country fixing hail damage on dealership cars. I'm sure these cars will be sold. :unsure: I saw them fix a ton of hail damage on one of those older Dodge Ram Indy pace trucks, the blue one with the white stripes. You couldn't even tell when they were done.

Yes, they'll be fixed and sold. I used to work as a salesman at a D/J/C dealer, and we occasionally bought hail damaged cars from the auctions. They were fixed prior to rolling over the auction block, but we had to disclose to the customer that it has suffered hail damage.
 

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Quote from another site on 35 said Challengers..

"My Boss told me his is on the transporter, and will be there Saturday, but the ones hit by hail were hit so badly that chrysler couldnt re sell them, there was 90+ mph winds with golf ball to tennis ball hail, and they litterally shredded the cars like swiss cheese. Tore through the interior, the seats, dashes, and the door pannels were torn off one of them, thats how severe the damage was. They are gonna get the guts stripped outa them, and crushed. Im gonna talk with the transporter driver saturday, and check out his cell phone camera pixs."
 

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Yes, they'll be fixed and sold. I used to work as a salesman at a D/J/C dealer, and we occasionally bought hail damaged cars from the auctions. They were fixed prior to rolling over the auction block, but we had to disclose to the customer that it has suffered hail damage.
No surprise,as most states require hail damage to be disclosed by law.
 

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Saw an Orange one on the road yesterday here on Va's Eastern Shore. Glad to see them getting into customer hands.
 

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Quote from another site on 35 said Challengers..

"My Boss told me his is on the transporter, and will be there Saturday, but the ones hit by hail were hit so badly that chrysler couldnt re sell them, there was 90+ mph winds with golf ball to tennis ball hail, and they litterally shredded the cars like swiss cheese. Tore through the interior, the seats, dashes, and the door pannels were torn off one of them, thats how severe the damage was. They are gonna get the guts stripped outa them, and crushed. Im gonna talk with the transporter driver saturday, and check out his cell phone camera pixs."

Wow, that's some pretty extreme hail damage.
 
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