thanks for the prompt reply, I will stay with the Caravan, we now have a 03 SXT Caravan which is the standard length, my wife is after a Grand model, looking for a little more room to haul the dogs to some shows. we have the 3.3 engine and I see there is a 3.6 engine available for 2013, not sure if iit's available in the 2012 Grands, if it is, how does the 3.6 compare to the 3.3 power wise and economy.The Journey 'wagon' is a JC body and the Grand Caravan 'minivan' is an RT body. Both built on different platforms.
The Journey is deemed to be as close size-wise to what a shorter Caravan would be as to not make a shorter RT worth building.
The details and refinements continue, so yes a 2013 would be a better vehicle than a 2012.
Year-end inventory clearance on the 2012's would likely make for a better purchase price for as long as they last.