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Hasn't been updated in some time, but apparently Dodge once put out a Towing Guide on their website, and it's still functional!

http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/home.html

I was curious about vans, I found the following:

2003 dodge ram cargo van 2500 BASE, 2WD, MAXI Bed, 46RE Four-Speed Automatic Transmission, 5.9L Magnum(R) SMPI V8 Engine:



With 3:92 Axle Ratio Axle Ratio http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# You Can Tow 8000 lbs

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# = 7800 lbs
Payload http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# = 2939 lbs
Curb Weight http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# = 4861 lbs
Curb Weight Front/Rear = 2761 lbs/2761 lbs
GAWR Front/Rear http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# = 3880 lbs/4670 lbs
Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehic...ine%5E46RE+Four-Speed+Automatic+Transmission# = 13000 lbs


This was for the 2500, I assume that the 2500 and 3500 are not significantly different other than, for some reason, the site doesn't list the 3500 as having the 5.9L V8, just the 5.2. With the 5.2 they list the GCWR as 12500lb instead of 13000lb. I also assume that this will be fairly consistent for all of the heavier B-series vans, so going a little bit older, into the eighties or nineties, this will basically hold true, and that the actual towing capacity will be determined by about 13000lb CGWR minus curb weight, so for class-B RV conversions they'll lose a ton or so due to accessories.
 

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B vans were often rated to tow 10,000 in earlier years, but that depends on axle ratio. 3500 were usually rated higher than 2500 due to Dana 60 axle and 4.10 ratio.
 

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They still have guides but it took some work to find Dodge's. (Ram's was easy.) These cover 2013 & 2012, not sure where 2011 & 2010 owners are supposed to look.
http://www.dodge.com/en/towing_payload/2013/
http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

Apropos of nothing, but I enjoy how the current Ram guide, under Common Weights, has Case Construction & New Holland Ag products listed under Construction Equipment & under Agricultural respectively. (Though the forage harvester is awfully light... more like 5,000 lbs. for that.)
 

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Tannon - I'd be very careful with using Dodge's tow ratings. It assumes there is just a 150 lb driver, no other cargo or passengers. It doesn't take into account an sort of safety margin (15-20% recommended) or the tongue weight.

The following link is better:

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-trailer-weight-tt.shtml

According to Dodge my 2006 Ram (see sig) has tow rating of 7,750 lbs. When I plug in the numbers in the calculator it's more like 5,000 lbs.
 

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Ford, and particularly Chevy, used to be notorious for over rating their trucks for towing. Dodge was more conservative as a rule.
 

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And let's not forget that the Tundra can tow the Space Shuttle.

But I bet it can't put the shuttle into the lake, or pull it back up the boat ramp!
 

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Tweety Bird said:
And let's not forget that the Tundra can tow the Space Shuttle.

But I bet it can't put the shuttle into the lake, or pull it back up the boat ramp!
That stunt still annoys me. Take my worn out, beat up '95 Nissan Hardbody four cylinder, put the numerically highest ratio axle in it, throw some weight in the bed (so it doesn't just spin its tires) and it could probably do the exact same thing that the Toyota did- pull a whole lot of weight on flat, hard ground...
 
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You really old guys like me remember the Chevy LUV Pickup ad where it pulled the train! I think this was in the mid- seventies?
 

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It doesn't take a lot of force to move a heavy object. I remember one time when my kids were in school an experiment that we took our voyager van on flat cement, put a bathroom scale up on the back of it and pushed until it moved. It only took 40 lbs to get it moving.
 
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