Curious on opinions on a budget drag racer body, was thinking early 90s Dakota or a late 80s Diplomat. What are some good cheap platforms for a 318 or 360 build? Looking to get in the low 13's.
As Valiant67 stated. My first choice would probably be a 1987-90 2WD standard cab/short box due to it being the lightest bodystyle. Shelby offered a package for 1990 that worked well for its era: only a 318 TBI but, note the dual snorkle air cleaner.Dakota was much heavier than the other small trucks. I think you'll find first gen (87-96) Diplomat and Dakota have fairly comparable weight. Dakota gained some weight for the second generation (97-03).
Traditionally "hot rods" were built out of stuff a fellow had on hand, or could pick up dirt cheap. No one really set out to spend a pile of cash.Curious on opinions on a budget drag racer body, was thinking early 90s Dakota or a late 80s Diplomat. What are some good cheap platforms for a 318 or 360 build? Looking to get in the low 13's.
None of the LA engines really breathe, well, ok, the 340 does, so to make the thing work you are going to have to find a couple of 340 heads, or aftermarket, or forced induction.Some interesting Ideas in this thread for sure. Thank you guys for the input, as mentioned a V10 In a Dakota would be really cool , Im not really big on fabrication and 5.9's are dirt cheap around here so I will probably go that route. I would love to put a big cam in a 5.9 and some radical gears with slicks.
That is great info im going to find that article for sure. Did he by chance say how much he spent on the build?Engine Masters Magazine did several SBM Mopar builds with great results.
The editor is a Mopar guy and built and tested various 318-360 and stroker combos.
Early 360 heads with a little work ran great and aren't as crack prone as the newer Magnums.
I think his goal was to try an match the above mentioned 340 heads as inexpensively as possible.
Also interesting was the stability of the early stamped steel shaft rocker setup.
It outperformed aftermarket roller rockers due to the "added lightness" and is essentially free.
From memory, his first 318 budget build with early 360 heads surprisingly made 425 HP.
One of his goals was to try as many common factory parts as possible.
He used inexpensive KB pistons that address the Chrysler "down hole" piston problem.
It's a toss-up. A heavy car needs torque, a light car, not so much.Early F bodies are light. Later J and M's are quite a bit heavier, especially the sedans, which were never designed to be hotrodded.
You guys are losing it. 340's and 360's shared head castings, except the 340 TA. All the old X and J heads are junk.
Putting 360 heads and intake on the 318 is a waste of time and money.
Buy a good '89 - '92 LA 360. This engine has decent 308 heads, and a roller cam and lifters. You can use a Magnum crate engine cam to beef it up, and still keep the rollers. Any money spent on ANY 318 will only bring it up to 360 in power (but not torque).
Torque is what wins the drag race. The 360 is the LA king of torque. The 383 is also a great option, but requires the heavier, slower 36RH. Put a built 32RH behind the 360, a built 8.25 or 9.25 behind that, and go forth shaming Craparo's and Rustangs.
That is great info im going to find that article for sure. Did he by chance say how much he spent on the build?
You are saying a hemi 300c body with a bad engine for $800.00? I see $2000.00 for blown engine hemis at the auctions around here.If 13s are what you want... just throwing it out there, I've seen Hemi 300Cs on Copart for $700-800 buy-it-nows. Cheap donor in a 13.x second 4000lb car stock.
You need to find some old Mopar Action magazines and listen to Ehrenberg.They did several builds over the years, in the winter 2006 issue they budget built a 302, 305 and 318.
The 318 was the strongest at 415( not 425) HP @ 6200 and 394 lb-ft @4400
They show the whole build and there's nothing exotic, early 360 heads with 2.02" intakes.
KB 167 pistons, approx $325.00, with zero decking are the heart of the build.
Milling the heads .060" netted a 10-1 compression ratio, CompXE 275 HL cam
Here's an example of the magazine.
Engine Masters Magazine, Winter 2006 Issue (at http://magazineexchange.co.uk/cw/engine-masters-magazine-winter-2006-issue.html )
Too bad mr AHBGuru wasn't happy with his 360 head 318 build many others sure have been!!
"You guys are losing it. 340's and 360's shared head castings, except the 340 TA. All the old X and J heads are junk Putting 360 heads and intake on the 318 is a waste of time and money."