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electric rates are so differnt depending where you live but the easiest answer is just plug in at bedtime.
Until everyone does that and then it is peak time
All the EVs charging at night won’t make it peak time.
No need to plug in at night. Just set the charging schedule time on your car or charger. The just plug in when you get home and it will charge on schedule.
It will. It’s demand time
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Was listening to a radio show yesterday. The host had and loved a Tesla model 3 but went back to an ICE vehicle because
1. His home electric bill was high (he gave no $ amount)
2. His insurance was 50% higher
3. He had to buy 3 sets of new tires in those 3 years because of the weight of the vehicle costing around $1200 each time
He says he won't be going back to electric. Electric vehicles aren't going to be the Savior of the World anytime soon apparently.
1. His home electric bill was high (he gave no $ amount)
2. His insurance was 50% higher
3. He had to buy 3 sets of new tires in those 3 years because of the weight of the vehicle costing around $1200 each time
He says he won't be going back to electric. Electric vehicles aren't going to be the Savior of the World anytime soon apparently.
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Based on your interpretation of one case, out of 1.2M EVs in this country. Gotcha.
(he gave no $ amount) - Missing Data always leads to subjective arguments.
yes, looks like a rant with no substance.
1) Yes the electric bill will be higher. But the sum total of (electric bill plus gasoline bill) will be lower. He's going to spend more on gasoline than he saves in electricity.
2) Of course insurance is going to be high. The Model 3 can range in price from the mid $40k range to over $100k. Is the replacement gasoline car in the same price range?
3) Given the short tire life, I'm assuming it is one of the performance trims of the Model 3. Like the Challenger with performance tires, long tread life is sacrificed for grip.
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3 sets of tires in 3 years?
What is the impact on the environment doing that? Seems like it would be really bad.
Wish they could make much lighter batteries somehow.
It’s likely tire choice, not that it’s an EV.
Performance tires for Tesla can have a tire wear rating in the 200s. Others are much higher. The same trade off is made for Challenger or Wrangler. Sacrifice tire life for performance or not?
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I’ve been considering trading one of my ICE vehicles for some sort of electrified vehicle. I have the perfect commute for it - daily drives 2-3 miles each way.
But the more I look into it, i.e., the hassle and expense of adding a charger, the increasing problems people have charging away from home, the growing greed of the charging companies, etc., the less appealing it all looks.
But the more I look into it, i.e., the hassle and expense of adding a charger, the increasing problems people have charging away from home, the growing greed of the charging companies, etc., the less appealing it all looks.
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If you only drive 6 miles a day round trip, you are not charging often, and you also don't need a full charge from full discharge, so you can probably just run to a 110V outlet and slow-charge it without installing a charging unit. You would be a great candidate for EV.
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Yup. I had a Pacifica PHEV for a week and just plugged it into 110V. Not a special outlet, just ordinary "meant for carrying a few ordinary lights" current. I generally got enough power to drive as much as I wanted.
So I've had my 4xe for a month now and I posted on another thread what charging looks like with a zwave power monitor on the 110v plug. My February bill showed no appreciable difference in amount of power I was using, but the "fuel" price of my electric bill has gone up 3 cents per kwh in the last year. The "non fuel" price has remained the same. That said, I live in Florida and by far the peak demand is in the summer when every building runs their a/c.
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I just got a $200 rebate for leasing an EV from the electric company which is a huge perk. Even with the cost of electricity, its still amounting to cheaper than buying gas per mile. I know the 4xe has a small enough battery you can get away with charging through 110v, but even if I needed the 220v charger, I don't suspect it would be much more expensive for me. I'm holding off on buying a 220v plug and an EVSE because while the Jeep wouldn't max out specific EVSE, its possible whatever replaces it might. I'll hold off on getting home 220v EVSE until I move to a Recon or the next 4xe.
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@Dave Z Plugging in takes overnight from empty but I find the car overestimes the time it takes to charge by like an hour or so. Directly in front of the Jeep is my dryer so I may pick up a 240v charger. I haven't decided yet. Am I deducing correctly from this that you are able to recharge...
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I just got a $200 rebate for leasing an EV from the electric company which is a huge perk. Even with the cost of electricity, its still amounting to cheaper than buying gas per mile. I know the 4xe has a small enough battery you can get away with charging through 110v, but even if I needed the 220v charger, I don't suspect it would be much more expensive for me. I'm holding off on buying a 220v plug and an EVSE because while the Jeep wouldn't max out specific EVSE, its possible whatever replaces it might. I'll hold off on getting home 220v EVSE until I move to a Recon or the next 4xe.
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Pardon me for a dumb question but how do you know what your level of remaining charge is while you are driving? Gauge? Warning lights? I did test drive a Tesla 3 a few years ago (pretty impressive performance) at a city sponsored event but there was a long line and it was a quick in - around the block drive - quick out situation with not much time for questions.
You have several statistics available.
Percentage of battery charge. Electric miles left (like distance to empty on a gas car).
Or the most useful for me is the total range gauge, estimate of miles left on electric and miles left on gas combined in one gauge.
This is exactly my situation. I work close enough that I occasionally bike. I have a daughter whose daycare is 3 miles away. Grocery stores, Home Depot, Target etc are 2-6 miles away. Parents and theme parks are 20 miles away. Only times I needed gas were to drive to Tampa or Daytona which are 70 and 40 mi away respectively. I usually charge every 2-3 days and on a 110v outlet. The exception is with the theme parks. Since 20 mi is the one way trip, many of the theme parks parking lots have 220v free charging with the perk of the EV spots being close to the entrance where the park operators charge a premium, but because I have an EV, they wave me by for free.
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