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Until everyone does that and then it is peak time
All the EVs charging at night won’t make it peak time.
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electric rates are so differnt depending where you live but the easiest answer is just plug in at bedtime.
No need to plug in at night. Just set the charging schedule time on your car or charger. The just plug in when you get home and it will charge on schedule.
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Based on your interpretation of one case, out of 1.2M EVs in this country. Gotcha.

(he gave no $ amount) - Missing Data always leads to subjective arguments.
yes, looks like a rant with no substance.
1) Yes the electric bill will be higher. But the sum total of (electric bill plus gasoline bill) will be lower. He's going to spend more on gasoline than he saves in electricity.
2) Of course insurance is going to be high. The Model 3 can range in price from the mid $40k range to over $100k. Is the replacement gasoline car in the same price range?
3) Given the short tire life, I'm assuming it is one of the performance trims of the Model 3. Like the Challenger with performance tires, long tread life is sacrificed for grip.
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3 sets of tires in 3 years?

What is the impact on the environment doing that? Seems like it would be really bad.

Wish they could make much lighter batteries somehow.
It’s likely tire choice, not that it’s an EV.
Performance tires for Tesla can have a tire wear rating in the 200s. Others are much higher. The same trade off is made for Challenger or Wrangler. Sacrifice tire life for performance or not?
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Pardon me for a dumb question but how do you know what your level of remaining charge is while you are driving? Gauge? Warning lights? I did test drive a Tesla 3 a few years ago (pretty impressive performance) at a city sponsored event but there was a long line and it was a quick in - around the block drive - quick out situation with not much time for questions.
You have several statistics available.
Percentage of battery charge. Electric miles left (like distance to empty on a gas car).
Or the most useful for me is the total range gauge, estimate of miles left on electric and miles left on gas combined in one gauge.
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Most Krogers near me have free charging and the shipping center with Target and Lowe’s does too. I see a lot of Wranglers and Pacificas using the spots, and an assortment of other EVs. Never another Grand Cherokee, Mach E, or a Tesla. Odd about the Mach E as I see several of them driving around but not using the charger spots.
If anyone uses up three sets of tires in three years that is highly unusual.
a) A mechanical problem such as the wheel alignment is out leading to premature tire wear
b) Tire pressures WAY off spec which would cause premature wear
c) Driver behavior which results in premature tire wear (burnouts, drifting, track racing)

A Tesla Model 3 weighs more or less the same as a Chrysler 300. You don't see every 300 on the road eating a set of tires once a year.

Yes, electricity costs money. Did everyone run on the assumption that charging an EV is free or something? How much money do you spend on gas every month? If your electric bill goes up by less than that after you buy an EV, then that's a savings, right?

A level 1 charger running on a standard 120v 15a plug draws about as much power as a small appliance like a vacuum or space heater. A level 2 charger is like running a few cycles on your clothes dryer.
There are 20,000 mile rated tires available for the Chrysler 300. A few years back I’d have burned through those easily in a year. These have the same wear ratings as some Tesla tires. The only difference is Tesla has those quick wearing tires as OEM on some models. The 300 had longer wearing tires as OEM, but some Challengers had those rapid wear tires as OEM.
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Having been in several Toyota hybrids, various Prius of different generations owned by relatives plus a few RAV4, including a 4 month rental, I like the 4xe hybrid interface much better.
I see a lot of complaints, but so many of them are people thinking the 4xe is an electric vehicle with a gasoline motor for emergency use only.
It’s not. If you let the hybrid do it’s thing it works pretty well.
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