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EV owners frustrated with home charging fees

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Was listening to a radio show yesterday. The host had and loved a Tesla model 3 but went back to an ICE vehicle because

1. His home electric bill was high (he gave no $ amount)

2. His insurance was 50% higher

3. He had to buy 3 sets of new tires in those 3 years because of the weight of the vehicle costing around $1200 each time

He says he won't be going back to electric. Electric vehicles aren't going to be the Savior of the World anytime soon apparently.
Based on your interpretation of one case, out of 1.2M EVs in this country. Gotcha.

(he gave no $ amount) - Missing Data always leads to subjective arguments.
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If you only drive 6 miles a day round trip, you are not charging often, and you also don't need a full charge from full discharge, so you can probably just run to a 110V outlet and slow-charge it without installing a charging unit. You would be a great candidate for EV.
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So, let's look at this 'high electrical bill' argument.

I own a 2011 Chrysler 200 that gets a combined 29.3 mpg (about 75% highway/25% city). I drive it (outside of pandemic times) about 22,000 miles per year. That means I use an average of 750 gallons of gasoline per year. At today's price of $3.099, that's $2325 per year spent on gasoline.

If I take that $2325 and apply it to the cost of electricity where I live (aggregate 20 cents per kwh with all costs combined), that would buy me 11,625 kwh.

If I assume a battery pack of 65 kwh, and that in real life, you never charge from 0 to 100% capacity, let's say a 'full charge' is 60 kwh. That gives me 194 full charge cycles, or better than one every other day.

If I further assume that I can conservatively get 200 miles on a charge cycle, and I have 194 charge cycles available per year, then I can drive 38,800 miles as an EV vs 22,000 miles for the same money with gasoline.

Or, working the equation the other way, if I drive 22,000 miles and get 200 miles per charge (again, conservatively), that's 110 charge cycles at 60 kwh per charge cycle, and at 20 cents per kwh for a total of 6600 kwh per year, my annual cost for EV 'fuel' is $1,320 - vs $2325 on gasoline.

I save over $1,000 per year on the energy cost alone.

Add to that the savings of EVs having a much reduced maintenance and repair cost of approximately $700 per year in my case (eliminating oil changes, tuneups, coolant system maintenance, and all failure modes associated with them, with exhaust systems, with combustion), and the savings is $1,800 per year.

If I keep the car just 7 years, I save $12,600.

And since the point-of-generation for the electricity is moved to a power plant that produces half the CO2 per kwh that my car does, I save 4.7 tons per year of CO2.
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