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Yeah, people complain a lot about the level of negativity here, and I get it. Reading the comment sections in articles and forums elsewhere, I’ve come to realize that people here may not realize just how good people are here towards each other. It’s like a free for all at these other sites sometimes, full contact no holds barred. :)

Not to mention the level of sheer stupidity with the comments either. Comments here may be perceived as negative, but the comments are usually thoughtful...for the most part. (My own stupid attempts at humor notwithstanding :p)
For the most part everyone does their research and forms an opinion, and I don't think we have trolls per se. People have heated disagreements, but I've been on Civic forums and there's people who modify their cars that are straight up hostile to the people that are get optimum gas mileage. The closest thing as for as being cordial to allpar is the Saturnfansforums and I'm sure that's a dying site at this point.
 

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PMD says it’s not FCA anymore, after the meeting and now refers to it as JARM. (Jeep, Alfa,Ram,Maserati) Bahaahaa!
He seems to be generally pleased with Alfa’s outcome. Chrysler is pretty much done and Dodge is performance & police cars (how long can it sell?) Has some nice words for Jeep & Ram. I guess with the sales of those two, only an idiot would say there’s something wrong there.
 

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PMD says it’s not FCA anymore, after the meeting and now refers to it as JARM. (Jeep, Alfa,Ram,Maserati) Bahaahaa!
He seems to be generally pleased with Alfa’s outcome. Has some nice words for Jeep & Ram. I guess with the sales of those two, only an idiot would say there’s something wrong there.
By gosh, he's so clever. I'm so happy his prediction of imminent failure has come to pass,,, oh wait.
 

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By gosh, he's so clever. I'm so happy his prediction of imminent failure has come to pass,,, oh wait.
Sorry, just edited that to include C&D. He still has a dislike for SM and says he couldn’t care less about electrification, just trying to hold out until retirement, so he can hand it off to whomever takes the job.
He’s not giving him credit for anything, Lol!
 

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The New Cars issue of Motor Trend may soon be down to 0 American cars, if Camaro and Mustang get discontinued. It's already down to just a few.
This was unthinkable just a year ago.
 

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I thought the reason the demon had other wheels off the line was because the line couldn’t accommodate the wheel width
The width of the tires really only matter at the end, line wise, tires are one of the last things to go and actually touch a track.
The bodysides and fenders are hemmed to make room for the tires when they actually go on. If they left them, the wide tires would be too close to the metal and a greater risk of damage.
 

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I bleed mopar blue, I been a mopar enthusiast for decades, but I work for Hyundai and you can see a clear different between the 2 Automotive companies, one has a very clear Direction the other does not.
And FCA has 10 times the Cash Hyundai has!

I hope the incoming CEO will ditch SM so called five year plan and replace it with a real vision for the company!



You seem to be a big fan of Hyundai/Kia.

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I bleed mopar blue, I been a mopar enthusiast for decades, but I work for Hyundai and you can see a clear different between the 2 Automotive companies, one has a very clear Direction the other does not.
And FCA has 10 times the Cash Hyundai has!

I hope the incoming CEO will ditch SM so called five year plan and replace it with a real vision for the company!
If FCA has more cash than Hyundai, maybe they are doing something right. Hyundai is in the second year of a pretty substantial sales decline. Hyundai’s bread and butter Elantra and Sonata are simply not selling well.

Reality is the market is changing, like him or not, SM was the first to recognize and gamble on it. The choice was made to make the investment on the plant shuffle and so far it is looking like it was the right choice.

Ford agrees with FCA on the sedan market also. GM will be next to announce wholesale changes to their sedan production.

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If FCA has more cash than Hyundai, maybe they are doing something right. Hyundai is in the second year of a pretty substantial sales decline. Hyundai’s bread and butter Elantra and Sonata are simply not selling well.

Reality is the market is changing, like him or not, SM was the first to recognize and gamble on it. The choice was made to make the investment on the plant shuffle and so far it is looking like it was the right choice.

Ford agrees with FCA on the sedan market also. GM will be next to announce wholesale changes to their sedan production.

Mike
Just to satisfy my curiosity.....I did a little poking around online, and came up with these figures which I found "interesting":

Market Cap as of the end of business today:

H-K $22.62 Billion
PSA $18.64 Billion
FCA $32.94 Billion


Just sayin'
 

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Just to satisfy my curiosity.....I did a little poking around online, and came up with these figures which I found "interesting":

Market Cap as of the end of business today:

H-K $22.62 Billion
PSA $18.64 Billion
FCA $32.94 Billion


Just sayin'
And?

Mike
 

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I think he is supporting your statement Mike... Market cap for FCA is higher than PSA or Hyundai/KIA.
That's interesting since I consider Hyundai/KIA to be doing a lot of things right, although not in the US.
 

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I was going to link the same article. Good for Dave for being interviewed in the article.:)

I’ll say it again, these investment presentations just stir up a lot of confusion, hate and discontent.
 
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I think he is supporting your statement Mike... Market cap for FCA is higher than PSA or Hyundai/KIA.
That's interesting since I consider Hyundai/KIA to be doing a lot of things right, although not in the US.
YAY!!!....You got it on the first try!

Post #652 was indeed supporting Mike's earlier statement.
I agree, but I was waiting for him to continue conversation about it :D

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IMHO SM’s shift to electric vehicles is primarily about China plus the diesel scandal. With Audi, BMW and MB the European market is tough for FCA. China is too big to be ignored and they have mandates.

Chrysler and Dodge have already been primarily North American. Last I checked Chrysler was down to three models already in 2009. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Product is coming. One minute SM gets criticized for saying too much and next for saying too little. I am glad I have been allowed to experience the second revival of the pony and muscle car area and Mopar is a big part of it.

Speaking off which. Off to Mopar Ralley, Silicon Valley’s biggest annual Mopar show hosted by Mopar Alley. Time to see again where it all started. It’s 2018 and we are still here and my five year prediction is that there will still be interesting and cool Mopars to buy...
 
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