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Subscribe to read | Financial Times (at https://www.ft.com/content/5127ed50-7f07-11e9-9935-ad75bb96c849 )

The agreement may ultimately lead the carmaker to join the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance in the future, some of these people added, while also warning that this outcome would mean taking a complicated path that would involve winning over Japan’s Nissan.
The discussions are ongoing and could still fall apart, these people said, cautioning that a number of structures and options are being considered. There is no guarantee the wide-ranging talks will lead to an agreement.
FCA has already been in discussions with Renault about sharing platforms, the manufacturing base that underpins a car, and is also holding similar talks with Peugeot owner PSA in France. It is understood that talks with Renault have moved beyond simply sharing the technology, and that they advanced faster than those with PSA.
FCA chief executive Mike Manley previously told the FT: “If there’s a partnership, merger, relationship that makes us stronger, then I’m absolutely open to looking at it.”
 

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FCA has most of its operations,sales and profits within North America -- a region where Renault does not operate
If FCA was one day included in the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance,it would upend the balance of power within the organization, further titling the centre of the Company away from Japan bringing Italy's Agnelli family, lead by John Elkann to the table
I expect the next stage after any annoucement of a partnership of FCA and Renault is the French Government selling its controlling stock in Renault to EXOR leaving John Elkann as THE power of Alliance.
From then, John will name himself as Nissan's Chairman (and maybe CEO as well) to shutdown any Nissan's "Independence movement" within Tokyo.
 

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The talks between Renault and FCA, however, are focused on the potential for extensive cooperation that goes beyond the companies' existing manufacturing partnership, and could "include joining large portions of their businesses," the Journal reported, citing unnamed sources familiar with the matter.
 

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Automotive News also posted that article.
FCA in talks to forge extensive ties with Renault, report says (at https://www.autonews.com/automakers-suppliers/fca-talks-forge-extensive-ties-renault-report-says )

If that scenario will materialize, I guess Jaguar-Land Rover will be the consolation prize for PSA.
Hey, what is you thoughts on the possibility of France selling their stock in Renault to Exor? Isn't the beef Tokyo got with a merger is Nissan becoming a "French Company"?
 

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At some point, if Tesla’s stock price drops enough, a hostile bid for Tesla gonna make a lot of sense for one of these European automakers...and with FCA having both a European and US presence, I would say makes lot of sense for FCA...
 

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At some point, if Tesla’s stock price drops enough, a hostile bid for Tesla gonna make a lot of sense for one of these European automakers...and with FCA having both a European and US presence, I would say makes lot of sense for FCA...
Tesla stock would need to fall below $40 for that to be a likelihood.
Maybe Samsung would join in with FCA.
 

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I just looked at the March numbers for Germany. While Renault sells more cars there (12k versus 10k) the top Renault was the Twingo with 2200 sales versus Fiat with 3400 500 sales.
Jeep sold 1800. VW Group is always amazing over there with 128k vehicles.... Nobody else comes even close.
 

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I just looked at the March numbers for Germany. While Renault sells more cars there (12k versus 10k) the top Renault was the Twingo with 2200 sales versus Fiat with 3400 500 sales.
Jeep sold 1800. VW Group is always amazing over there with 128k vehicles.... Nobody else comes even close.
The one big thing is Russia.... FCA (assuming acquiring Renault) would be Russia's largest car company and would have almost a Joint Venture with the Russian Government ...AvtoVaz.
That means FCA and Michigan Democrats will have LONG, LONG discussion about Russian sanctions.
 

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I'm not sure about the market cap. Someone pointed out what if Exor acquired the French govt share of Renault. If that happened and FCA came out on top, then the Jeep curse would be over.
 

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The way I look into these kind of stuff is FCA needs some kinda financial and technological partner to develop and make A-/B- cars/crossovers and C- segment cars.
 

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I'm not sure about the market cap. Someone pointed out what if Exor acquired the French govt share of Renault. If that happened and FCA came out on top, then the Jeep curse would be over.
Yep,
EXOR would purchase French Government stake in Renault, giving them control of Renault's Board and therefore power at Nissan..
Not that it matters, but FCA's market cap is bigger than Renault.
 
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