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I fully understand that this was intended with humor in mind.

The only problem is that, for me anyway, the joke sorta falls flat.

Speaking only for myself, the murder of the Plymouth Division left a sore spot in my heart that never fully healed and didn't need to be messed with.

Besides...You're WAY too early for April Fool's Day anyway!
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I fully understand that this was intended with humor in mind.

The only problem is that, for me anyway, the joke sorta falls flat.

Speaking only for myself, the murder of the Plymouth Division left a sore spot in my heart that never fully healed and didn't need to be messed with.

Besides...You're WAY too early for April Fool's Day anyway!
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Yes..it was tounge in cheek....but with the high prices of cars today I think there is a market
for good USEFULL cheap cars.
 

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Yes..it was tounge in cheek....but with the high prices of cars today I think there is a market
for good USEFULL cheap cars.
I fully agree with your argument in favor of a low(er) cost "mainstream" type brand. Plymouth would have been perfect for this, except it would cost WAY too much in money, time, and effort to revive it.

While not a perfect solution....... I have made the suggestion here more than once that it might be worth a try to reintroduce the OPEL brand to North America. After decades of decline and mismanagement at the hands of GM, Ma STLA has been doing a great job at revitalizing the brand's fortunes in Europe.

I think it would be much easier to reintroduce a European (especially German) brand to North America than to...in essence...start from scratch with a revival of Plymouth.

Let's face the harsh truth. Ma STLA already has her hands FULL with brands crying out for attention......cough!......Lancia......cough!...

I don't think there's ANY appetite on the Company's part to go around creating more brands! ;)
 

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Yes..it was tounge in cheek....but with the high prices of cars today I think there is a market
for good USEFULL cheap cars.
I doubt any manufacturer could produce such a vehicle and still make a reasonable profit if priced in the low to mid 20's.

The pandemic and resulting demand is part of the reason for high vehicle prices though the used market is starting to go down a bit. It's going to be a few years for prices to drop (if ever). There is pent up demand - people (like me) who want to purchase but are waiting.

Speaking only for myself, the murder of the Plymouth Division left a sore spot in my heart that never fully healed and didn't need to be messed with.
And Plymouth's sisters, Dodge and Chrysler, stood by and did nothing.
 

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Speaking only for myself, the murder of the Plymouth Division left a sore spot in my heart that never fully healed and didn't need to be :)
And Plymouth's sisters, Dodge and Chrysler, stood by and did nothing.
Worse, Dodge and Chrysler were inflicting many of Plymouth’s wounds. Cars like the Chrysler Newport and Dodge Demon were intended to get into markets where Plymouth had success.
 

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Worse, Dodge and Chrysler were inflicting many of Plymouth’s wounds. Cars like the Chrysler Newport and Dodge Demon were intended to get into markets where Plymouth had success.
And, as of this moment are in the same shape as Plymouth was. One foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
 

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I fully agree with your argument in favor of a low(er) cost "mainstream" type brand. Plymouth would have been perfect for this, except it would cost WAY too much in money, time, and effort to revive it.

While not a perfect solution....... I have made the suggestion here more than once that it might be worth a try to reintroduce the OPEL brand to North America. After decades of decline and mismanagement at the hands of GM, Ma STLA has been doing a great job at revitalizing the brand's fortunes in Europe.

I think it would be much easier to reintroduce a European (especially German) brand to North America than to...in essence...start from scratch with a revival of Plymouth.

Let's face the harsh truth. Ma STLA already has her hands FULL with brands crying out for attention......cough!......Lancia......cough!...

I don't think there's ANY appetite on the Company's part to go around creating more brands! ;)
Plymouth could be brought back way easier than trying to establish Opel here. Neither one will happen but I had to set you straight on reality.
 

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And, as of this moment are in the same shape as Plymouth was. One foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
And the segments Chrysler and Dodge should play in are being given to Jeep (Grand Cherokee SRT, Trackhawk, non-rugged FWD based CUVs, entry level Renegades, etc.).
 

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Opel can't come to the USA. Part of the GM sales deal.
I actually wasn't aware of that stipulation in the deal GM made with Groupe PSA.

Thanks for clueing me in. It sure does sound like something GM would do.

I would love to say what I really think about GM in general, but then I would have to wash my mouth out with soap for using such terms.
So....I'll say it this way instead:
Silly of me to ask, but when has that ever stopped me before?
I'm going to assume that this stipulation applies to Vauxhall also?
 
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